Well, they are lying.
But that is what happens when a lawyer’s lips move.
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you also have one spec that has to compete in all forms of content. if ret is dumpstered you have to switch roles, or classes. a mage (and me as a warlock) just have to switch specs and we can do entirely different types of damage that are better in certain contexts than others. you have role variety. we have damage variety. which is why it’s silly to only play one spec of a pure class.
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i likely won’t notice it as i don’t do cutting edge content.
probably it’s just our turn to be at the bottom of the Flavor of the Month rotation
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you shouldn’t do more damage just because you chose a pure class. this isn’t vanilla.
for me i have as demo st and burst aoe, cleave and burst st as destro, and can excel as a good all arounder with an emphasis on council fights as aff. which makes me much more versatile in a raid than a ret pally. that’s our strengths. they don’t always do the same damage on the same bosses but we’re infinitely more useful throughout a raid than a class with only one dps spec that has to somehow try to be good at everything all at once. if you only play one spec though you’d be better off rolling a hybrid because it’d all be in one spec not spread out over all of yours.
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Yeah, it’ll never be balanced until there is no bottom of the damage meter.
pures went from being damage bots to utility bots. we’ve never been able to just coast as one spec and crush meters. you’re supposed to switch specs for different things. hybrids lots all of their utility to gain damage. now we’re all even. look at a rogues mythic+ toolkit vs a ferals. or a mages raid utility vs a shaman.
Very true, though I’ll pretty much play ret no matter what. 
every class should have at least 1 competitive dps spec. it doesn’t have to be your favorite or whatever, but one should at least be mid pack. if you don’t even have one then you have a right to complain. but i think it’s silly pures expect all 3 of their specs to be top tier all the time just because they willfully chose to not tank or heal. rolling a pure is not an i win button.
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Tell that to the developers.
Oh wait - Everyone did that. For almost a year straight as we told them that these conduit/soulbinds/legendaries were going to lock us into a spec (which they absolutely did).
I was aware, so I went what was best. But the “Play what YOU want” folks are having to eat a lot of crow right now, and while I can’t say I don’t enjoy watching them reap what they’ve sown just a little bit, they shouldn’t be forced to do this. At least, not BOTH Arcane and Frost.
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Covers noodles in oil you rang
no one here is asking for all 3 of our specs to be top tier all the time. all we are saying is that our bottom 2 specs, which are considerably under-performing be given a little bit of attention to bring us up to parity… y’know like they just did this week with 5 of the 7 underperforming specs, including rogue who already had 1 spec that was overperforming.
the only 2 underperforming specs left untouched are mage, we just want the same attention the other 5 got, thats it.
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play what you want people aren’t eating crow. demo is trash and i use it for all forms of content and i am playing what i want. i am necro for the mog even though i should be night fae for performance as a demo lock. but 9 times out of 10 aff ends up being the best in raids. destro the best in pvp when rot comps aren’t good, then that’s also aff. demo is literally the trash spec. which is what arcane is. fire is your best spec for raiding most of the time. sometimes at the beginning of an expansion frost does well but tapers off as fire gets more stats. you have to not pay attention at all to not know this about your class. i knew, and i do what i want, because i chose whats fun over what’s optimal. if you’re pushing content you know exactly what you should be playing.
If you’re fine with being trash thats good, but for the rest of us we want to be competitive with other dps.
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i can wish upon a star that demo will end up in aff’s place but it never will. and the few times it is good it gets nerfed to heck and back and aff gets buffed. the same as the few times arcane has been decent it’s been an outlier. you can “compete” with your niche on certain bosses but if you’re a mage going all in on raiding you should go all in on fire. because that’s your raiding spec. look up parses from the first raids on and most of the time mages are killing damage its as fire. except sometimes when the fact arcane can pump out burst helps with something like in dragon soul on spine of death wing. which is arcane’s niche.
Why does it matter? Mages aren’t top DPS and still have one of the highest representations in the current raid. I think it’ll be okay unless all 3 specs were among the worse for Castle Nathria.
Says the huntard
some people think rolling a pure means you should automatically do more dps. which is silly. all you get from being a pure is the ability to not ever be forced to tank or heal, because you can’t.
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This warlock and Hunter are retarded its blowing my mind
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Sure I can! I’ll just attach bandages to my arrows and shoot people with them!
It’s getting to the point where if Frost isn’t buffed soon I am out. You knobs at Blizzard made an expansion that is very unfriendly to swapping specs. You designed it this way and now you need fix it. (This also goes for Arcane as well)
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