The fact of the matter is this, that you should have a goal now. The next time Blizz comes out with something similar to the Mage Tower, you know to work to get it. This is why I say inaccessibility breeds desire and is good for the game.
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Disclaimer: I did put the time and effort in to get all the mage tower appearances I cared about at the time (including werebear and neon kitty - on 2 separate accounts).
The mage tower was challenging. It was both frustrating and rewarding, and the feeling of finally completing it after so many tries was euphoric, and displaying the skin was something to be proud of.
I understand in order to keep it that way, as well as ensure that the achievements and skins continue to reflect that people “earned” it, players shouldn’t be able to revisit it as “old content” at current ilvl+ to just cheese it.
I can understand people crying about it if we could just go in at our current level and cheese it, but I have not once seen anybody suggest that the mage tower be reopened in such a manner.
I really don’t understand why so many players think their efforts and rewards would somehow be cheapened simply because someone achieved it at a later date than them. This is a ridiculous thing to fret over.
Time walking, and the current level normalization techniques (e.g. level 120’s running dungeons with level 110’s) is a thing. There’s no reason this couldn’t be applied to the mage tower challenge, so that players who want to complete it for the skins and achieves can continue to do it with the same level of effort as others before them.
Hell, give the original batch of earners a “feat of strength” or some “ahead of the curve” equivalent achieve to set them apart a little more, though again, I feel it’s a bit petty to think you’re better than someone simply because you did it a couple years ago vs. now.
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One hundred percent agree with this (and not just because you are my dear friend hello friend 
). I hate having to be the bummer drummer and tell someone, “You can’t actually get this anymore.” If someone sees something cool I have and asks how to get it, it makes me super happy to be able to give 'em more info so they can go get the cool thing too.
I have three MoP CM sets that I worked very hard to get, and I wish they were still obtainable. Not everyone was able to play Mists. The Mage Tower weapons also weren’t available for a full two years, and again, they’re inaccessible to anyone who didn’t play Legion, or who started late into the expansion.
I have no problem with something like titles being exclusive rewards. The way they did it with green fire - title for those who completed it when it was relevant, but still letting people unlock the green fire itself - was perfect. Removing the ability to gain those cosmetic rewards entirely sucks though.
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No, because all that does is have blizz go back on their word to the players that it WOULD be a exclusive thing. No matter in what way the would implement it, they would be slapping the face of people that DID do it, vs just leaving out the people that had the same chance to do it then. The backlash if they did this would be huge, as in the end, its the company lying again to the players. This may not be something new, but it is something that the players do not like. They have held firm time exclusive stuff for expansions now, and it doesn’t hurt ANYONE that they do it…
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To say this is ridiculous is subjective and not really the case to some. If it’s time sensitive and later Blizz opens it back up to get at a later date then it’s no longer time sensitive and all that effort you put into getting it AT THAT TIME IT WAS RELEVANT is no longer a thing anymore because now you can get it at a later date. Had many people known that, they probably wouldn’t have put the effort in to getting them.
To compare MT and other Challenge appearance modes to normal PvE would be wrong because they’re not the same and blizzard has stated this as the case.
Edit: Also -
While yes they’re arguing not to be able to go back and cheese it, the argument everyone else is making in regards to time sensitive still stands no matter what.
If you walk into a bowling alley, and witness a tournament going on, and someone wins, they’re awarded a trophy. If you walk into the same bowling alley two years later, and say: “Yo, remember that trophy that guy won? Yeah, lemme buy it for 12 bucks.” You are making their accomplishment mean less. You are devaluing their accomplishment.
End of discussion. Time sensitive means time sensitive. Legion exclusive means legion exclusive.
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I always felt bad for druids, I got both the cat and bear form, but druids get so few customization options, that it sucks that those forms aren’t obtainable in any other way after Legion.
On the other hand, I want challenge mode skins but acknowledge I did put the time in for those in either WoD or Pandaria to earn them, so I understand them wanting to keep things exclusive.
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The only forms that are not available anymore are the MT ones. The rest are still obtainable…
With all the class changes (especially to tanks) they would have to esentially create a new mage tower to tune it correctly. You wouldn’t be able to move a slider to make it right. I would rather Blizz make a new mage tower, tuned for BFA with new, unique rewards.
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Id argue that blizzard should simply put in a bit more customizability in the game. With Blizz being old, which I’m sure everyone knows by now, and current games having far more options in regards to customization I feel like their lack of customization sort of… I can’t say ‘hinders’ but obviously makes it lesser in those specific regards? I’m not sure if you get what I mean.
Regardless, I’m someone who loves to customize my characters to how I want them to be, and it sucks that Blizz doesn’t offer many options in that regards. For example, if I wanted my blood elf to have similar tattoos as a Demon Hunter, or facial scarring like the male worgen are getting soon, or the Female Kul Tirans have. That sort of thing.
It’d be nice.
… I also want class customization in regards to how spell looks according to lore and what not… Just silly small things, you know?
^^ also this… While I enjoy MT skins all their own, it is nice to see new challenges for newer things that could potentially be cooler to some, maybe not so much for others. But that’s just my opinion.
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I would be really mad if, by some miracle, I earned High Warlord or Grand Marshall and Blizz allowed everyone to transmog into those sets knowing the grind I just did to get that. It would feel like slap in face.
I wanted the form for my druid but… I’m old and there was no way I could have done it (though I tried). I would support other people getting a shot at it.
And please give our druid friends similar options for different colored boomkins.
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You realize that it isn’t an echo chamber, its the fact your opinion is in the minority? Its like you can’t just quite comprehend that your views are disliked by people, and your “reasoning” isn’t agreed with…
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Vanilla servers were made to combat illegal activity that didn’t have any other solution. They were clearly adamant about not bringing those in originally. And, further, comparing a game mode and comparing something that is advertised as exclusive are two different things.
Classic WoW was never advertised as exclusive. Legion Mage Towers were. You’re not an evil person. But you are arguing a senseless discussion. This isn’t the hill you wanna die on.
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TBH I feel like Vanilla servers were something that was bound to happen eventually given how many times Blizzard has had to deal with the massive amounts of Private servers being made, which is a big no no and it does make their numbers suffer depending on whether the person prefers Vanilla, BC, WRath or retail, etc.
I wouldn’t say you’re an evil person. Again, I’m not sure what makes you think we’re ganging up on you or that you’re evil but I’m sorry you feel this way I suppose?
This isn’t comparing apples to apples. A better analogy is to walk into the same bowling alley two years later and say “Yo, remember that trophy that guy won? Hey, let’s hold another tournament so others can have a chance to win a trophy.”
Nobody is asking to be able to go cheese the mage tower today. Nobody wants to destroy the integrity or challenge level of the mage tower. They simply want to be able to continue complete it and earn the rewards of it, just as it was, when it was available..
Sorry, but I simply disagree with others who think their achievement/rewards are somehow diminished simply because someone else earned it at a later date. By that logic, the only people who should have rightfully earned the achieve/rewards is the very first player to complete it (for each class/role) - similar to “world first” achieves. I have a sneaking suspicion not a single one of you commentors in this thread can claim this. So by your own logic, your own completion of it undermines the people who did it first.
Oh, but you did it “at the time” you say? No, no you didn’t. You did it within a time frame/window, and you did it after them. That is your only argument against people who want to do it today: That you did it before them, and it will somehow diminish your own achievement.
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That’s true, but wearbear form is a rather unique model that changes everything drastically, I’d argue cat form isn’t too game breaking, but the sparkles are awesome. But werebear really sticks out as something that wouldn’t feel great to not be able to use.
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While I’m probably not in the majority in regards to opinion on this topic to the OP, I’m sure you could’ve probably gotten it down 
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Careful friend, you’re opening a dangerous can of worms.
There are many more examples like this.
Secondly:
Yeah? Guess what, another tournament would have another trophy. Which means bring forth another mage tower. Not the same rewards.
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