Mage Kiting Nerf - excessive?

I want to start out by saying I am not a fan of boosting; It’s bad for RMT, kills the population of the open world and it isn’t what classic is about. I think the exp nerf was great and should really de-incentivize boosters.

That being said the nerf to mages kiting ability in dungeon’s is… Super excessive? If a mage is able to go into a dungeon and kite, solo, he should be able to. AoE kiting is a mage staple, to take that away really bummed me out because I enjoy going back and farming old dungeons just for loot and I find the challenge of it is getting more and more packs of enemies to try and juggle down.

On top of the above - Those hero moments where you’re the last alive kiting out a mob for as far as the instance will allow will no longer be a thing, just kind of a bummer there.

I think it also goes a bit against classic ethos, it’s just more limiting the way to play the game. You MUST play it like this… Playing it like THAT is wrong, so we must nerf kiting!

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For the greater good.

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The Greater Good

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And what, pray tell, is Classic really about?

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Stick around long enough and youll find thousands of different answers to this

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It’s honestly a very needed step in the right direction, you can’t deny that Mages made the bulk of botting in WoW and now with these changes it prevents those “players” to continue supplying those that run RMT sites with gold.

Now, this doesn’t completely stop the botting, they’ll simply shift from using Mages to using Paladins instead. Perhaps they could simply reduce the value of gray items like they did to the mobs in the graveyard of Zul’Farak, I can see that being a good solution to slow down the flow of gold botters produce.

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Yeah exactly. It’s not a nerf to solo AoE farming, it’s a nerf to mages doing it, which seems excessive

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Yes mage friends, the XP nerf was enough, the aoe farm nerf is excessive.

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On the one hand probably, on the other hand there’s an argument to be made about managing how effectively people, especially solo, can farm instanced content to create excessive amounts of mats, raw gold, etc

Honestly dude I was against this too.
But I have come to terms that it probably is for the greater good.

This makes zero sense, people solo farming instances has always been a thing and always will be a thing, it’s just a part of the economy.

What creates excessive mats and raw gold is bots doing things like fly hacking to farm nodes in dungeons and out in the world.

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Just as no single snowflake blames itself for the avalanche, no individual Prot-Paladin blames itself for the excessive gold generated by farming Stratholme.

( lulz Im gonna boost two Paladins in LKClassic specifically for exactly that )

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I think it’s excessive since now pallys are still able to farm but not mages. However this should totally apply to Sunwell screw those spammers. The majority of raw gold is pally/mage/rogues though.

“Excessive gold” 300-500 gph is not going to do much. These are legitimate farms by legitimate players.

I could make a hell of a lot more doing more negative activities like GDKPs, but I choose to farm legitimately through dailies and strat.

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multiply it by a few thousand and then you have inflation

Still not enough to compare to bots.

Bots are the problem, not legitimate players doing legitimate farms, take away my farms, I can’t make gold, can’t make gold I can’t play.

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pickpocketing is the main botted activity currently for raw gold but if blizzard broke that too then they’d probably have to do pally farm

Pally farming and mage farming is not really bottable, it’s not the same every time.

And I see you understand, banning the bots would fix the problem, not breaking the farms.

Players instance farming still does because it’s uncontested mobs that have virtually no cap to them. This isn’t a “bots do it, but players don’t” situation. Albeit there’s still other ways to instance farm anyways via a prot paladin or something.

I don’t know why Blizzard went for this, didn’t see a post explaining their rationale so I’m just taking a guess at why based on precedent as they’ve done many instance nerfs to retail over the years as more and more players started farming old raids