Not bad for a class that doesn’t have an actual heal
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They don’t heal much all purgeable plus it was just was nerf. damage is so high I don’t think the heals matter
Anything that increases their health that isn’t evocation glyphed is bad design. IMO.
Previous versions of the barriers and absorbs were ok and managable. Idk why they changed them.
I’m ok with alter time but mostly because it doesn’t reset procs anymore and can be purged. Temporal shield i can accept strictly for arcane because it’s arcane. The rest i don’t like. I guess I’m ok with cauterize too.
Not a fan of block being the heal. But I guess with damage how it is it’s understandable.
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It’s actually surprising to me that people still complain about mages.
Take a look at what’s around them. Because on their own, mages are far from being that great.
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So long as mages exist they’ll be complained about.
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They’re purgable if you can afford to take a break in setup and healing every 10 seconds to spam purge 50 times. Lol
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I think damage from Combustion instant cast burst could go down, and sustain damage on casted spells should be drastically higher to reward good positioning and getting non-cc related casts off. This is why mages were so heavily rewarded for Gpyro casts in BFA even though that spell was also bad for the game.
But it’s definitely a problem with Sub Rogue specially that makes Mage so incredibly broken. I think Sub damage needs a nerf, or removal of 2 charges of shadow dance / step + shadowy duel. It’s impossible to punish breaking rogues out of stealth now with the Subterfuge talent existing.
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This basically.
I think we’ve reached the point where anytime someone loses to a mage they rush to forums to cry mage and farm upvotes.
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RM/RMP are scum. Watching players feign shock over the community wanting them tuned is always funny to see.
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It’s weird ot me that duel exists but rmp is more popular than RLS or something. Shouldn’t duel synergize like absurdly well with affliction? or is it because rogue is 100-0 strong that it’s pointless to try and make use of duel with a teammate?
obviously it’s not ideal for everyone
but ‘on their own’ is incredibly meaningless as long as 3v3 is the center point of competitive pvp
Sub can just play a stun bot until someone trinkets. Then 100-0 them in stuns with duel + dance / blades. Outside of Pally bubble or mage block nothing can stop it.
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Yeah… But fire spec is sooooo incredibly bad nearly everywhere else.
So, this leads me to believe that it’s not a problem with the spec itself, but its ability to work with certain classes that have a LOT of abilities to control the battlefield.
i mean, that means literally nothing tho
also you’re being like ultra dramatic
it’s more than strong in several 2’s comps
it’s good in bg content
it’s s+ tier in pve
when you say “everywhere else” you literally only mean dueling which means the least of anything
unless they reworked fire from the ground up it’s not as easy as ‘lol add stun so 1v1 feels better’
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I’m certainly not afraid of a fire mage in a battleground. And in PVE they aren’t anywhere close to being top tier. I think you’re out of the loop on the matter. It’s painfully average atm.
Fire spec is a very niche spec.
in the world first kill of a 300+ pull boss this week, fire mage was 5th dps and 12th on healing while accomplishing one of the most demanding jobs, babysitting a bomb back and forth the entire fight
didn’t we even get a LONG essay from setback and dilly about how insane fire is in most duel matchups very recently? i feel like it’s not even bad in duels
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Hard for me to say, as I don’t know the fight at all. Is it performing that well on every fight?
Because from what I’ve heard about people who play fire, they certainly don’t seem to be thinking the spec is all that great at the moment in PvE.
I don’t play fire, but I watched a Xaryu video, and he’s a pretty damn good fire mage, and he doesn’t seem to think it’s all that great when it comes to solo play. =/
tell ya what though. More people running resolve/aegis for wpvp/duels/bgs feels touuuugh as fire. Some fights feel lowkey unwinnable with both of those in play against you.
Luckily every single person isn’t using em yet. I’ve already accepted ele/spriest/fury/dk running aegis/resolve is unwinnable now. I been trying quite a few duels past couple days post nerf. Those 2 things slant fights sooo heavily.
Wait, serious?
Yeah? Have you tried fighting any other class in the game?