Gertt over here cookin’ poor little aguy.
Idk, dude put a whole personality on display for a youtube video from 2018.
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Oh they’re the same if you exclude their massive differences, sure. Classic 2019 servers were very much alive (record retention!) until they released the cash shop in TBCC prepatch. Features of the game you love decimated the population of the game you’re criticizing for being low pop?
You can keep repeating the “nobody wants this” line, just like the “wall of no” people, but 4 million new subs for a 15 year old rerelease doesn’t lie. You’re incorrect about the demand, and your insistence on it not being provided reeks of ulterior motivations.
“Person disagreeing with person I don’t like ”
Absolute moron.
I was one of those that said classic realms would never work, nobody would play them, it would fail blahblah blah.
I was proven wrong time and time again, so lets all keep that in mind, shall we?
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I appreciate your capacity for learning. I wish it were more common.
Yea, he really overestimates the popularity of vanilla and I wish I had the patience to find some of his quotes from the SoD forums where he exposes his obvious delusion…
It’s not about disliking you… I think he’s right and you’re wrong. Tough to grasp that people can disagree with you, huh?
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So, what you’re saying is… It was “pristine” until TBC? Seems like Classic 2019 was “pristine” based of your comment.
Also, this is false information. TBCC was extremely successful. (It’s the bump post-Shadowlands launch, amid a historic loss of subs due to poor PR and poor player reviews for 9.0.5.)
Also “record retention” is something you made up. We can clearly read the graph where it LITERALLY reads: “Record post-launch stability and growth” … and it’s Dragonflight.
https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2024/03/25/pxl-20240320-165341832-1711400215228.jpg?fit=bounds&width=1280&height=720
Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/world-of-warcraft-subscription-numbers-are-higher-now-than-at-expansion-launch-in-a-franchise-first
And those 4 million players received a product near exactly what they wanted. I was there for the entire run, including Phase 1-6 of Classic, TBC, WOTLK, and now Cata.
I know literally no one who plays on Classic Era realms. If it was such in high demand, why is it that, during peaks hours, those realms are dead?
If the interest for “pristine servers” was even 5% of Cata’s current population, it would have an active community during peaks hours. But it doesn’t. Classic Era has no market at this time. Players want Classic+ now.
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What’s the over/under on this dude owning multiple remasters of Skyrim?
Not sure what the current count is, but Skyrim has like 15+ remasters over multiple consoles/platforms.
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No, pristine is an entirely different damned concept. You’re being intentionally obtuse.
TBCC on launch had BFA FLOOR sub counts. Decimated by the boost. Look at the graph. I’m bored of arguing basic facts.
Why are you misrepresenting facts?
2019 Classic was stable at peak Dragonflight numbers. Dragonflight was facing the same decline they all face, but saw a surge bigger than launch because SoD brought in 2 million new subs.
Regardless of what happened with dragonflight, Classic occurred before dragonflight, and maintained record subs through its lifespan. Even after the resurgence due to SoD, we’re looking at stable post-launch decline 2019 Classic numbers.
Because the game is not in progress. It’s been on its final phase and stagnant for longer than they were in progress. You know that’s exactly why they’re not popular. This is the weakest argument you guys have and you dump it everywhere.
You still don’t grasp what pristine servers are. How damn boring.
No less than 9. Lol.
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If you knew the basic facts you would know that these are “WoW subs” and not “Classic WoW” subs. Trying to separate them is dishonest. That’s why I gave context for Shadowlands’ historic player count drop. Because, if you think the boost is why subs dropped, you’re either heavily misinformed or you’re intentionally dishonest. Being misinformed is not an issue, that’s fixable. But the other option means you’re actually malicious.
Nope, you’re wrong.
After BFA and Shadowlands, and especially due to the CA lawsuits/bad PR, players did not return en masse like they do for every expansion. (This is most obvious by reviewing Legion to BFA’s data points.)
Probably about a million subs or so came back over time, by good reviews from Dragonflight, and by the success of Classic Hardcore and SOD. Consequently, both Classic Hardcore and SOD are not “pristine server adjacent” and thus would not correlate to hypothetical interest in “pristine servers.”
SOD’s bump is notable, but it’s also a promise of NEW CONTENT. Pristine servers are not that. That is why Classic Era realms stayed dead throughout TBCC, WOTLKC, Hardcore, and SOD.
Players scratched the itch already.
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And nobody cares about some insipid idea for some extremely niche server no one is going to play on other than a couple of desperately lonely players like yourself and a washed-up WoW youtuber.
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I’ve quoted your OP multiple times. I’m going off what you wrote.
You need write an updated description. This is not a challenge, but a request. If you want to talk “pristine servers” and people seemingly keep getting your definition incorrect, then you need to provide a better description. Just make it a bullet point list. And then you leave us no room for error. From here, you can try to score some epic pwnage on an internet forum.
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Irony, so many receipts have been brought and yet you’ve shown nothing…
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9 is a lot. I’ll take those odds with the under (8.5). Only because I don’t think they own multiple consoles. But it’d still be close. 
Not true. They’ve shown themselves to be a bit of a brat. “Idiot”, “Moron”, “Dork”.
I’m sticking around until they call me Daddy. (/s)
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This isn’t even my idea. This is your hero J Allen “You think you do but you don’t” Brack.
Yet you feel the need to come in here and inject your naysaying and make several posts on the topic?! Again, shut up.
You’re trolling. Gg.
I wasn’t. Lol. I’m just sitting in queue. Almost got my alt leveled up.
Ahh the default response when you’ve done nothing but take L’s for your out of touch views.
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Honestly at this point why relive the journey yet again? WOW classic was a great example of how everything and nothing changed.
Those who wanted WOW classic were absolutely right of the desire and popularity it would bring. However they were 100 wrong in believing everything was going to be the same and putting 2004 into 2019 was not going to change things.
The world buff meta, the extreme max and min, the efficient leveling routes, the grouping up just to say a few things…Everyone loved the journey again to their point but I would say nobody at the end of it could honestly say it was the same one as in 2004.
And pristine servers seem utterly pointless at least for me. I already did leveling many times without any heirlooms or using the LFG much or just going around with friends. As much as I like WOW the thought of them putting resources so people can do it yet again is pretty lame.
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You keep trying to silence me because deep down, you know I’m right.
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