M+ leaving epidemic still widespread

If you’ve ever tried pugging m+ you know that leavers are around every corner. Even in keys that are still easily upgradable if they would just slow down.

Honestly there is like literally 0 reason to leave a key week 1 of the season unless you literally cant kill a boss. Everyone still has something to learn everyone needs something from it even if its not in time. I even solo’d the last 15% of the boss and we were clearing the sneaky npcs in city of threads and this man just up and left.

And i wanted to take this moment to stop and thank Blizzard Entertainment for throwing straight gasoline on the leaver fire with this new “challengers peril” affix. Which basically means at a certain key level a single wipe means the key is a deplete just giving them even more reason to leave.

As a wise man once said “Retail wow is a game built for terrible casuals and hardcore sweaties at the same time. And the 80% in the middle get ignored and given an experience thats so watered down that its meaningless.”-Asmongold.

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yea this affix is quite stupid.

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go do delve, it’s better on every emotional level.

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I honestly cannot understand who thought that the current lineup of dungeons was a winning cycle to debut the expansion.

I mean, the catalogue of dungeons for this game is MASSIVE. and of all the ones available… Siege, Necrotic, and Grim were the best they could offer?

ABSOLUTE LOL

If that isn’t proof of malicious design, I don’t know what is. hehehe

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I don’t ever intentionally leave keys but I don’t blame anybody that does with how bad keys are since the squish.

Like why should I be expected to carry fotm rerollers when this is basically all of them lol
https://i.imgur.com/NzptWO6.png
Overall in a 9 btw

It’s actually almost every single group.

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they never did anything to address it.

+4 Ara-Kara

DK pulls the entire room like its normal and we wipe because there is no aggro control and after we all die he immediately logs off.

Why wouldn’t I leave that?

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Grim Batol is fun. Mists is not.

what a GIGACHAD

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You have a bunch of people gearing up through delves thinking they are hot stuff and shooting for key levels they probably have no business doing. I think a lot of people are in the right to leave groups lol.

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If you were the healer for that you have my sympathy lol.

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Just remove the timer already. M+ would improve immediately in every aspect.

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It’s ironic how many mythics are basically just LFD without the queue. So we’ve gotten rid of the convenience and gained what in return?

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Not sure how removing the timer prevents people from leaving groups. Instead of people leaving because they might not make the timer, they will leave because they are in a dungeon that might take an hour or more and be a massive waste of time lol.

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Yeah I admit, the packs from 2nd to last boss? Diabolical and unnecessary.

Personally, still prefer to run Mists over NW and SoB ANY DAY. But with that being said, a healer that doesn’t know how to heal that whole dungeon, is an absolute nightmare. A tank that thinks they can pull multiple packs in that dungeon without CDs? Yeah, like I said: malicious design. lol

Nah, let’s get some accountability going here. This is not an issue of “non-M+ players” stepping into M+ and ruining keys. This is an issue of:

  1. Terrible Dungeon Choices paired with bad squish design.
  2. Veteran M+ players VASTLY underestimating the squish and not handling the learning curve.

All WoW’s squishes have been disastrous in their iterations. Remember when we leveled squish and couldn’t do 8 year old raids back then because we would still get one-shot? Yeah, this is the same thing.

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None of the affixes other that xalatath’s bargin are in any way interesting.

Making things hard by simply adding more HP/damage is lazy and artificial difficulty.

Go back to adding extra mechanics, even if the previous set weren’t great, doesn’t mean the concept was bad.

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NOTHING has been able to top the Awakened affix IMO. The obelisks was the most fun I have ever had doing M+.

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This comment right here reaffirms that forum opinions are just noise to be ignored.

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disagree with the vet comment, top end m+ are still the top end m+

i think what more accurately describes the distaste is veteran m+ players seeing this goofy set of affixes and seeing how lazy and uninspired it is, which adds to the grind tedium.

but no veteran was like WOAAAAAH I didn’t account for this currrrrve. lolwut?

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One of the most universally hated game mechanics isn’t popular. Stick your fingers deeper in your ears I suppose.

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