Is that why they increased crest drops in 12s to give 20? Players were absolutely running 12s before being BiS’d out.
That’s what I thought. You make terrible arguments then dodge when you can’t substantiate it.
Nah they likely just read the thread, saw how many times you’ve been presented counter arguments and better statistics and you just flat out ignore them XD
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The key squish they did in DF was too extreme. Making a 2 as hard as an old 10 was too much. 2’s shouldve become 4’s etc.
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There’s something to be said about making certain mechanics kill no matter the key level. If it kills you in a 12, it will kill you in a 2. If baby keys are for learning, there’s nothing better than death to hammer that home.
i am really not sure where the disconnect is in this discussion. “the numbers are down” is a statement that can be either true or false, and being good at the game has no bearing on whether or not the person making the claim has access to the data. “m+ sucks” is an opinion, and i’m not arguing that they feel or don’t feel that way about it.
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How many times? Only 1 person attempted to present stats and did so with wild logical fallacies by looking at 140 day data compared to 111 day data as 1:1.
Yes 100%.
You’ll have the same experience going from +11 to +12. The healer or tank can’t carry DPS in a +12, they all to know how to kick and survive. It’s so frustrating that I just refuse to pug 12s, and sadly I haven’t been able to weasel my way into a friend group that’s doing higher keys. It’s been a disappointing season in some ways because of that wall.
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Yeah, looking at the correct data. The actual key completion vs participation rates. You’re leaning so hard on the “key completed” rates, which don’t say anything aside from how many TOTAL keys are completed. Whether they’re repeat keys by the same player or alts of those same players.
What “correct data”? They are using the exact same source material as I am except they are trying to compare 140 days vs 111 days. What they listed is key completion data which you claimed isn’t participation data, but now all of a sudden you are saying it is?
Better yet, I honestly don’t care, you 5 or 6 people are exhausting. You win, WoW is incredible, you’re all absurdly good at it, everyone else sucks and is stupid.
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