I guess no mmo has content then. You do the same stuff you have done until a new patch or exp drops in every one. Hell, ill even extend that to online games in general. No devs ever keep up with content to match our rates of consumption
Once you’ve destroyed the opposing team’s base in league of legends or dota, you’ve completed the game. Never need to do it again
Also multiplayer games. Fighting games, sports games, racing games, etc. The only games with content are single player rpgs.
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OP in case you aren’t aware, your premise is so absurd the majority of GD is laughing at you.
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For all the people pointing out that all mmo’s have no new content, look it’s never been to this extent…
Think about Final Fantasy 14…
When you level a new class/job, you get NEW CONTENT to see, as new class quests and stuff.
Also even if you level a profession, you get new content. There’s no way I will finish all job/profession quests by the time the next expansion comes out in FF14.
Wow has none of that. Wow doesn’t even player housing (REAL player housing btw not garrisons)
That’s one of the reasons I love FF14 over wow.
The journey never ends.
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And that’s fine. I don’t think anyone in this thread would argue that wow isn’t lacking content.
What people are arguing against is the OP. Instead of saying “wow is lacking content”, he’s saying “m+ is not content”. This is absurd and it’s exactly why people aren’t supporting him.
“Once a guild clears a mythic raid for the first time, the raid ceases to be content. “ this is absurd logic.
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He worded his point of view badly, but I admit I am not a fan of mythic+ myself, it’s one of the reasons I hardly even play wow and spend most time on FF14 these days…
Outside of travel time, every 2 levels you get maybe 10 min of new content pertaining to each job. I do enjoy it but the OP barely considers that content. Housing is great to, but according to the OP once you buy a house(if you are that lucky) it’s no longer content
And that’s fine. You don’t have to play it. M+ was an enhancement to pve. It allowed players difficult end game content that increases in difficulty outside the raid scene. If you want to raid, you aren’t required to m+. What’s the problem?
and doubled/tripled down on it for the full duration of this 229 post thread
he’s objectively wrong. m+ is absolutely content
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It’s not so much a problem in 9.1 but it was a BIG problem in 9.0
Fixing the game that many people loved and were forced to leave because the game design philosophy is wrong. Then we can all have a great game again and millions can come back.
You really don’t see the pain point even though it’s been addressed 100’s of times in this thread? I don’t see how you don’t understand what we are addressing here since it’s already been covered in detail…
I know you are mostly trolling and don’t want to fix the game but… come on.
I’d like to do BGs with my friends PvP guild. I’d like to have some more content in open world and engaging WPvP again. More emphasis on the story and side content to explore.
I’d like to remove all the systems that are in the way of doing the activities we enjoy. It would be great if I could log in and get BiS PvP gear in Ashran like I could in WoD.
It would be great if old content wasn’t cast away because things like Island Expeditions should be revitalized as another form of activity too do. Especially the PvP expeditions where I thought it was a great mix of PvE objective and PvP. It should of been worked on more not abandoned.
It would be great if Brawls were all the time as a Que instead of just 1 for that week. Brawls have tremendous potential for competitive play and many PvP players want to see competitive PvP in a 6v6 format instead of Arena.
Actually fix and add Epic BGs. The community has countless threads on changes and asking for new content in the Epic and BG front.
This game has a lot of potential but sadly, I can’t just log in and do many of these activities. You have too do all these other things that are in the way first. It’s time to start removing the things in the way, adding more content and getting players into the activities they enjoy without gatekeeping them.
I don’t want to remove it!!! You must be trolling. I think having skill related activities are important for the game and have said this many times. I think it’s good that M+ exist for the people that enjoy it. It’s good that Arena exist for the people that enjoy it and keep saying that. However how they exist is bad for the player base when you gatekeep what players need in there. So they have to do these activities they hate or pay for boost to get it out of the way.
I think Preach in his goodbye to WoW video explained a lot on how there isn’t any content in the game and how the Devs must be doing things in spit of the players.
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Your level of gameplay does not require in any way that you do m+. If it did, you wouldn’t need to pay for it. If you need to pay for a service to do another activity, you’re neither good enough for the first activity nor the second. You can either improve yourself as a player or stop pretending that wow’s design is keeping you from what you want to do. As far as I can tell, you aren’t enjoying wow.
You don’t need to do m+ to do pet battles. If you want more content for the casual player, I’m on board with you. But when you create a thread with the subject line “M+ is not content”, you’re setting yourself up for failure.
Don’t expect sympathy from other players when you attack their interests. This entire thread screams “I’m bad at the game and it’s not fair”
If all you want to do is pvp, then you’re in luck. M+ gear is pretty trash for pvp, you don’t have to do it after all. But it also sounds like you want the time-based progression instead of skill-based progression to come back. That’s an opinion, not a fact. It also sounds like you don’t want to have to pve to do pvp effectively, that’s something I can get behind.
220+ posts to say you want to BG to maximum effectiveness in BGs. Seems pretty straightforward to just say it.
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This is incorrect. Are you saying that people buy level boost because they aren’t good enough to level? Get outta here. 
People pay for boost because it saves time and they don’t have to do activities they hate. You get to get to where you want to be where the game starts and is actually fun.
Seriously, anyone can see that.
Yes it does because you are competing against players that have M+ and Arena gear and when you don’t have your Renown, Sockets or high enough item level you get destroyed and can’t do the activity. Now if you want to only have BG gear in BGs then you would be correct and most of us will be all for it. Until that time though it isn’t the case. Which is why the BG community has all but left because they don’t want to be forced into M+ and Arena to do BGs.
Not to mention try doing WPvP in honor gear. Ummm yea no thanks. The best PvP gear in the game should be able to be attained from BGs and PvP quest.
Of course not 
This game is terrible and these threads exist so we can fix it. The majority of players don’t enjoy WoW that is why they left. It’s because the game still hasn’t been fixed since launch. 9.1 is just 9.0 with extra steps. Obvious is obvious. Are you not paying attention to what is going on here, I mean really. How many more people need to leave before you see it?
If you pay for a level boost because you hate leveling in a MMORPG, why are you playing a MMORPG?
You also understand the irony in supporting the purchase of a $60 level boost while complaining about the quality of content, correct? I mean are you just some next level troll or are you legitimately this lacking in self-awareness?
“Blizzard, I hate your end-game. Here, take $60 so I can get to it sooner.”
See above. Based on what I’m reading, you aren’t enjoying anything. O h wait,
you aren’t. Great.
Huh? In what capacity are you “competing” with people? Random bg’s? PvP gear is stronger in pvp. this is predominantly fixed. Sure, a m+15 chest item will be marginally higher than a bg item, but if you’re the better pvp’er, skill will preside over a few ilvls. That, and you should be getting conquest gear from your chest. No need to run m+ in the interest of pvp gear. In reality, it would be a detriment to do so as far as your weekly chest is concerned.
If your complaints are pvp-related, why is the subject of this thread entitled “m+ is not content”?
The PvP community will tell you it isn’t fixed. The gearing is atrocious and SL is one of the worst expansions for it. Honestly it’s even worse than BFA. At least the PvP gear I needed in BFA was attainable.
Are you really comparing a 252 item against a 203 BG item that scales up too 216 in PvP. You obviously don’t understand the pain in the PvP community then and maybe you should educate yourself a little better before trying to have a discussion about it.
Maybe try to grasp the concept of the thread. Why can’t we fix the game and address the problems. I’d like to say this back and forth has been fun but you just aren’t even trying so I feel like this isn’t a discussion and am wasting my time. I’d say spend more time learning about the issues in the game currently. Then come back and discuss the topic.
Blizz has an option, fix their game or lose everyone to other games. It’s really that simple, I’m willing to help them fix WoW though.
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I don’t think you want to argue BFA pvp gearing was better in BFA than SL.
No, I’m comparing choosing a a m+ chest item instead of opening a conquest weekly chest item. If you predominantly pvp, you will earn a conquest piece in your chest. Conquest pieces will inevitably be better ilvl than m+ items, and you’d be a moron to choose a m+ item.
People don’t listen to your “concepts” (which are laughably absurd, i might add), when you add inflammatory language in your subject line.
Since we’re giving advice, “maybe” try to go back to the drawing board, understand what you’re really upset about, and then develop an argument in a far more concise and comprehensible manner. truth be told, this thread is a mess.
The fact you said “blizzard, you have my email” and propositioned that they should offer you a job is perhaps the funniest thing I’ve read in these wow forums lmfaooo.
Don’t really have a dog in this fight but the reason anyone wants better gear is to feel powerful and effective. Why be satisfied with killing something in say 40 seconds losing half your life when you know you could nuke it before it touches you with better gear. It’s kind of the driving force of the game. Even if you’re just doing a wq anyone would rather do it even just a few minutes faster. Time management.
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Well this is a gear based game. We log in to get gear. Then enjoy the activities we like with that gear. Everyone is annoyed when the gear is gate-keeped behind RNG, Vaults and Rated play or systems. It’s just in the way of having fun.
Can you imagine if the Devs just got out of the players way and designed a game where everyone can just do what they want. That would be a successful MMO. Trying to control everything a player does and micromanage them isn’t what a game is for.
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