M+ is garbage now

Just because you can’t cope doesn’t mean everyone who can are “elitists”. You are basing everything on “feelings” instead of actual facts.

We are currently at 27.5% KSM.
Historically, we see 30-35% at the end of 6-8 months.

Let that number sink in.


We started the season at ~605 ilvl coming out of M0. The season cap is 639 which means the ilvl gap is 34 ilvls.

The historical season to season ilvl gap is 26.

Let that number sink in.


Both of these mean that even though we are starting with 50% below the standard ilvl gap from season to season, 27.5% of characters who participated in M+ have already achieved KSM.

Stop trying to rush progression. If you weren’t pushing 15s and 20s this early in past Season 1s then don’t expect to right now.

You can’t compare mid-expansion season to seasons to now because of the fact that we have to cover 34 ilvls, started with no tier, started with no embellishments, no bis trinkets, ect.

Learn the mechanics. Learn to interrupt.

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