This is why i love your feedback. Your 100% the player base blizzard needs to listen to.
Something isn’t working within the system.
Some people keep coming back to it will get better later, but in the current state, it doesn’t matter if you do it at 619 today or 619 months from now (if nothing changes)
I am certain things will change, but i feel this feedback needs to be out there to make it happen.
It’s wild how all these people are in the same situation but can never find each other online to play together.
Would just like to pat myself on the back for predicting this repeatedly a week ago.
The scaling in M+ is handled terribly. The people saying “git gud” are not comprehending the argument. The problem isn’t just that M+ is too hard this season, it’s that the reward scaling is terribly implemented such that there’s no way for people who do heroic raid level content to progress upward, and that gulf is going to widen not shrink, over time.
If you weren’t doing 9s last week? If you didn’t get a myth vault? You’re kind of out of luck. You’re behind, and you’re going to stay behind because people are going to be taking those who have higher item level.
It’s a trap Blizzard set by not having a steady ramp of progression. Now it’s a wall. If you can’t do 9? Well, you still have delves and can get to 619, at least, but M+ is just not gonna be for you until next season when Blizz, hopefully, fixes this nonsense.
Once mythic raiding levels out, they’ll move the glided crests to mythic 8s and all will be well.
I’m not one to post on the forums much but this is such an insane season. I’m 2500 on multiple chars every season. Perpetual AOTC and probably could raid mythic but our 2x a week guild just doesn’t want to push for that.
I LOVE the difficulty of the new dungeons they feel good they feel rewarding when you do a pull well and your team has their stops and kicks on point. Bosses are challenging but not impossible.
Straight up drop all rewards by 2 levels 8 gives myth track, 7 gives gilded and leave 10s as the portals and this season becomes playable and even fun. First few weeks you have to fish for a 6 mists to 2 chest and slog your 8. Start that myth track grind. Power through your 7s to grind those crests and once we have an extra 5-7 ilvls we will be just fine cruising through the 8s and then can work towards 10s which are another beast.
This is my current main 7/8 Heroic haven’t been able to time an 8 yet.
not everyone deserves those portals. you dont need mythic gear to get portals.
i was 1/8 heroic when i timed all 10s. what are you trying to say?
Play ffxiv or a different game that isn’t run by elitist basement dwellers c:
Why can’t all these hopelessly “behind” players group with each other?
If they moved crests to 8s, then the same problem exists for people who can’t do 8s…
They find each other and brick the 9 into an 8, one of them rage quits, then the other 4 come here and post about it 
okok I’m sorry jk! 
The level 12 rogue is going to get his revenge on the sweaty basement dwellers from his high rise apartment as his model girlfriend rubs his back!
All jokes aside, I guess I’m a sweaty basement dwelling +10 key elitist. That being said I still do agree that the crests should be more easily accessible for the casual player to give them a path for upgrades. I used to be more of a “get good bro” guy but I’ve changed my tune. Give em the loot, who cares? I love this game and I want it to keep doing well. Casuals pay to play like anybody else, and when they aren’t enjoying the game they leave - less subs - less content for me.
I do keys at a high level but I raid with a semi casual kind of guild who has a lot of players like the many here are having trouble doing 9-10 keys for crests. Constantly unhappy with the systems, the tuning, the LFG, you name it. It sucks for them. They are good people who enjoy the game but just don’t have the network of players, or time to play as much as i do. It’s a tale as old as time. The gear will not make up for skill gaps in keys but if they think it does so be it! Give em the loot! It doesn’t affect me in the slightest. We carry on
Thank you for this post. Worded my thoughts much clearer.
this x1000
This is their intent. People got used to gearing being a thing you just got done with in dragonflight rather than a weekly process of character growth. Its still possible to do that now (9s and. 10s) but intentionally more difficult and a long term process. It will get progressivly easier with vaults and crest conversion every week. But they have essentially made a funnel where some people can get through the hole right away and little by little each week another group of people will make it through as the character power starts bumping up their skill.(I dont mean this as an insult to anyone but people were doing 12s with no teir last week not everyone is built the same.)
no sir, once you get 619 you will stay 619, there is no progression after this if you cant get in 9s and 10s, and the ilvl gap disparity between players will only widen, making your chance at making/getting in a gilded crest farm fun even lower. even if you get 8s done, the vault doesn’t offer you an upgrade on a WEEKLY basis
were the people doing 12s pugs?
Yes…you need to do harder content to get the next step of rewards.
Even if crests came from 8s, the people who can’t do 8s would be in the same position.
Lower it to 7s and the people who can’t do 7s are still in the same position.
At some point there is a line that players need to cross/accomplish to progress further, and some amount of players won’t be able to do it.
Not every form of content has to be puggable. But yes almost all my 9s and 10s are pugs there are plenty of like minded people pugging gilded crest farm. You cant just say there is no progression when clearly there is. Just because you dont wanna put in the time and effort in to do it doesn’t mean you get to claim it doesnt exist.
Your plan looks like progression. Id stick around if this was the case. It makes no sense to have the prestige portal achievements, the most disruptive affixes and the gear to complete them at 10.