While you can still get better than heroic raid ilvl items for failing to time a 15, the system is broken. M+ rewards need to be toned down at all but the highest key levels, not increased. And it should never reward inflated ilvl loot for failure.
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Says the guy posting on an alt, always clamoring about a âM+ defense crew!â boogeyman he invented.
Whoâs actually sowing discord here ?
Yeah because we can call you out on all the things you make up and on your paranoia of roving bands of âMythic + defense shock troops with a hidden discord who coordinates their attacks against M+ dissentersâ.
Most are, you just canât agree with facts and numbers, even when they stare you in the face.
All you offer is stalking and insults.
Look, if you donât like M+, donât play it. Not that you can at level 50. Donât try however to paint people who enjoy the content as trolls. That actually makes you the one trolling. We enjoy the content, we know how it works, weâre going to point out when people make up fantasy stories about it and grossly misrepresents how it is.
I think this is what they should have done with M+. Taking challenge modes and ramming them into the end game progression gear treadmill was a mistake.
The only reason most people love M+ because of the easy loot. If this wasnât the case, you wouldnât see 50 million whiner threads a week about raiders getting a few ilevel bump in gear.
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Did the ilvl distribution change again? Now a +20 weekly vault is basically better than anything in Mythic raiding save the last two bosses at 424 and exceptional items at 430?
yeah Blizzard clearified in a Council post
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Kekw /10char
Who cares if your not doing mythic riding who cares what their ilvl is?? Just do your m+ like you normally doâŚ.
Geeyzuz thatâs like saying âoh no those raiders doing mythics now have a ten lvl ilvl gap over my pvp gearâŚhow will I ever participate in pvp knowing those raiders are gonna have higher ilvl than my pvp gear!!
This ainât bout PvP chief.
This is about the disparity and thus requirement for Mythic raiding gear to compete at the high end in M+.
Thatâs ok I will just get to max level unsub and come back near end of expansion.
That way I can skip all the timegate, have people gear enough to carry me for free like always, not have to worry about grinding rewon, legos, mats for legos, 1000âs different currencies.
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But if you arenât doing mythic raiding who cares what their ilvl is? I pvp and I donât give a dang what your guys ilvl is. You do you. I only care what the other guy in pvps ilvl is
They added this thing 3 expansions ago called Mythic+. Might want to check it out.
I have itâs a joke content but thatâs besides the point. You still didnât answer my question. Iâm happy you like m* everyone in wow should find their niche. If thatâs you great rock on pal. But if you are not stepping into mythic raiding then why do you care what their ilvl is?
Thatâs something someone who canât complete a +2 would say.
I did.
If this conversation goes over your head and you donât grasp the implications, just move on and go discuss something you do understand.
So a mythic raiders in all his gear glory steps into an m* and heâs got a slight edge on youâŚthatâs making you feel all bent out of shape?
First, I raid Mythic. I do both forms of content.
Second, not having Mythic gear will hard cap your progression in M+. Itâs not that others go farther, itâs that you personally canât keep progressing.
Third, stick to PvP discussion, obviously youâve never experienced this content and thus have no clue what youâre talking about.
Well if you do both then you will be fine. You are of leetness man! Just take your mythic gear into m+ problem solved in fact why even waste time gearing in m+ at all. Just get your full mythic gear and then jump into m+ dude itâs gonna work out for you even better then
Thatâs not the point.
The point is that it is competitive end game that is as if not more challenging than Mythic raiding, and requires the very best gear to be able to climb. That gear should be rewarded from Mythic+, just as it is from Mythic raiding.
Both forms of content need to be as rewarding as the other.
I feel Iâm wasting a lot of time on you, since you obviously donât even know what this is all about.
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Hate to break it to ya pal but I do m+ and raiding even on your alliance side. Itâs not that I do t know what Iâm talking about but you are getting bent out of shape for no reason at all. Semantics! They arenât even done tuning yet! Trust me man the carebear nation of dungeon runners holds mass sway over the blizztards! If m* ilvl isnât as good as raid gear the pigs at the ilvl trough in m+ will squeal and blizz will quake in fear. The Watcher has your back because heâs spineless
I dont think M+ gear should even be heroic raid level .
having said that I also dont think that you should need raid gear to clear high keys or do high level PvP .
Way to solve the problem is to make gear with bonuses that work ONLY for teh content it drops for .
Raids : Tier bonuses and trinkets that only work in raids that it drops from ( this would solve teh problem we had a few expansions ago where the best tier bonuses cam from having 2 piece from teh prievious tier and 2 piece from teh current )
M+: have set bonuses/trinkets from gear that drops in teh dungeons and only work in m+
PvP --exactly teh same
World drop content : again teh same
that way, for example , people who say like m+ but not raids will be bale to have the best possible gear for m+ without having to raid .
The catalyst would then turn non tier into teh appropriate tier ( a dungeon drop coverted to the dungeon tier etc )
This eloquent solution has been suggested numerous times, and everytime, a small vocal minority has to scream âI donât want 4 sets of gear to play the game!â You know, those same people who say they only play one game mode to begin with.