Myself and my friends are all feeling the progression completely halt on our characters as we approach the +9s and +10s and the absolute misery it is to try and pug those without taking people +200 IO above me. I enjoy challenging content, but the path to progression is too steep past a certain point where the challenge is no longer enjoyable.
I genuinely suggest running your friends through +8 Prosperous Delves. It can help them learn the mechanics of their classes better and ultimately results in a 616 Heroic piece in their boxes at the vault reset.
If your friends struggle in M+ due to gear issues this is the fastest way to help get them geared up a bit.
If they are struggling with mechanics it may require additional addons or simply more practice. The season is pretty fresh and eventually they will get the hang of the dungeons.
It’s been a pretty steep change for my group (we’ve changed classes and been hitting delves hard for gear) but they’ve made mythic+ harder on purpose to try and side step single tanks dragging entire dungeons to each boss and topping the DPS chart in every pull.
Really hoping they get rid of that silly 15 second death thing.
I did address this and another summarized it in this thread as well. My friends cannot execute at the same level. For an analogy, I didn’t need to study for a test and I’d get a 100, but my buddy who spend all night studying gets a 70. It’s no different here. In pugs I just take my time selecting other “like” skilled people, since I run my keys and I’m tank, and we knock them out.
Unfortunately, I cannot make my friends execute any better. It’s not for lack of trying either, we still play together for their progression, not mine, I have to pug.
It’s even worse than that. You lose 75 seconds off the timer if the whole group dies.
It is less friend, friendly to keep it short. Its more need perfect comps at mid to high keys, with bar shifting from 8s for vaults to needing 10s. If your a class Blizzard has sat on for aoe or tanking you’re essentially torpedoed for the season. But if you’re a DK,Pally,hunter, with a decent healer win.
the problem isnt the affix its that blizzard has for once kept stuff hard and people are having a hard time because most want to be lazy or just wont put effort into learning and gearing there toons
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I like this seasons M+ more than any seasons since BFA season 4. Unfortunately I am on an outage that lasts until March and it will be 6-7 days per week starting the middle of this month for the duration of the project.
Not a fan of the Nerubian dungeons, however.
No gearing is just easier and you only need one weel instead of 2.
Hell ya! Money Train coming to town just hang in there!
dude yeah thats gotta be the most uncreative and unfun affix possible.
challengers peril starting at 7 is the worst decision. save that trash for the nerds who push double digit keys.
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Can’t carry people forever if you want to push higher content you gotta learn on your own. The 15sec penalty is rough not gonna lie but as a Holy/Disc priest I been pugging and am at a 2725 score. You get what you put in some people don’t have the time to spend and that’s ok and that type of higher content isn’t for you. But stop complaining you can’t carry people! Most people want to carry to get gold let’s not lie about that now. Mythic plus is not for players who want to carry that is not the purpose of the content. If you want to carry people go do 7s below
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Oh it definitely is. Spouse unfriendly too - my husband already quit because I told him he needs to git gud.
Oh well. He wanted to go throw money at space ships anyway. GD credit card warrior.