I miss DF season 3 and 4
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M+ are garbage every season, worst thing to be added to the game.
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What feels like garbage? The dungeons, the gear? S1 is always painful at the start, the crests at 8 are a good start, some dungeons feel worse than others but I don’t know about garbage, I also haven’t really pushed this season at all, real life always dictates how much time I can dedicate to stuff and this season has been less time, but from what I’ve seen, eh, could be better could be way worse.
Aww i am sorry you miss the seasons of free gear and little effort. 
Stop changes
Tank trinket change
Dungeon pool
Orb affix is a gimicky mess
Class balance
Aug still a thing
Death affix
Adding steps to the linearity of M+ feels bad
Those are the main things realistically
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All of this. They need to tear down the walls and let us have fun
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- DF was the stop change. We’re just back to normal now
- Trinket change us just some minor DPS
- Dungeon pool is nice to actually have something new and fresh
- Orb affix isnt really much of an affix unless youve got tunnel vision dps
- Class Balance is looking better than normal honestly
- Agree with the Aug thing
- Death affix just highlights players not doing mechanics
If run backs weren’t also butt death affix wouldn’t be so bad, but one mistake leading to a wipe removing 75 seconds and then a 75 second run back just blows, some dungeons one wipe can nearly brick a key
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Yeah some of the restart points are questionable.
They need to get rid of the time limit and redesign the balancing around not speed running.
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M0s exist if thats what you want. M+ is all about the timer
And its a dying feature with less people running each season. Time trial garbage has never fit WoW, M+ just did well in Legion because the options were far more limited than they are now.
It’s always been a bad idea they copied from Diablo 3(one of the worst games blizzard ever put out). It’s time to redesign it to actually fit with WoW. You time trial sweat lords can cope and seethe for all I care.
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It was pointed out by growl, a high level runner, the affix doesn’t feel nearly as bad in like dawnbreaker when you can be back in like 10 seconds, and then you die on a boss in stone vault…/
They need to make the carts, once cleared to, accessible both directions
Data says otherwise
Yet we were speed running dungeons for badge gear 17 years ago in WotLK
Ah the irony. M+ is a great addition. Dont like it, dont do it?
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you can set it to heroic and have fun.
We lost 30% df season 1 to tww season 1, though there’s valid reasons for that
If you think M+ is ever going to have the timer removed you are going to be very disappointed for a very long time.
DF S4 would be a better comparison. But still, with the introduction of Delves, m+ numbers are still considerable. Be interesting to see the changes to S2 and how the numbers play out