No, df season 4 would not be, it was a fake season from the get go and many people just took a break during it
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But thats when the changes happened that weāre having as normal.
Took away 50% of the key ranges, started at a 10 difficulty, and added in Delvesā¦and the numbers are only down 30% compared to DF S1.
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I mean, I see what youāre getting at, but itās not a good comparison, season 4 was easier than season 3 even and it had considerably less participation than season 3
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Really? So 3 of my characters get a tank trinket, umā¦ ātankā ātrinketā, that required them to freaking stop tanking and wait to build up some resource. The name of the trinket should have been āhold my beer, be back laterā.
With the changes to the dungeon difficulty id argue otherwise. The dungeon pool was better in S3 which is why it was so easy/popular.
And i think most classes had their ābestā tier sets in S3 too. Ti t for tat.
Yes, your explanation shows you dont understand what the tank trinket change was or how my comment plays into said changes
IMO the worse thing Blizz did was squishing key levels, so now a +5 is around what a +15 would be in the past.
The problem is that bad players are making everyone miserable. And while I donāt think Iām a pro player, Iām talking about terrible players, the ones who donāt even put interrupt on the hotbars. These bad players would do M+ up till +8-9s on the OLD system, now they want to do a +9 that is actually a +19, PUGING is a NIGHTMARE, and I have enough. My friends stop playing already, I try to do 2-3 PUGs and I left the instance with a bad taste in my mounth, wanting to call people names because dear god how they can be SO BAD and how TF are they climbing up to +9?
Something is wrong. IMO instead of squishing Blizz should have done the other way around. Increasing key levels. An old +10 should be the new +20. These really bad players would have enough climbing up to 15s, and the ones who enjoy the challenge would be at 30s. IDK Iām mad.
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I played s3 and s4, season 4 was easier, specially with how easy it was to get sets and bis items
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Iām really enjoying S1 thus far.
I havenāt played DF at all, but after Shadowlands, it feels fairly good. Tho ngl, S2 and S3 were shadowlands were a blast. Especially S3.
Yes, tanks feel āweakerā, but as far as dungeons, progression, rewards & affixes go, Iād say itās a solid W.
Old content dungeons were a solid pick. Iām really enjoying them. NGL, GB is definitely in my top 3. Or at least top 5. Interested in seeing next season pool!
I like the way affix works and how we got 3 or 4 different version of it .
15s death penalty feels a little rough at times, but it is what it is.
Canāt really comment on DPS balance, but there is a clear meta in tanking and healing. Some tuning would really be appreciated.
Rdruids today remind me of MW in SL S1-2 oom issues. In 8ās and 9ās. never see any healers get drained, except for druids. Druids are always oom.
BrMs are defo the āworstā tank out of all. We can still do all the content, we just neeed to put in tons more effort, but our raw survivability and self sustain doesnāt really match up to other tanks sheer/raw defensives. The only cool thing about Stagger is that we donāt get 1 tapped on pulls.
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Its the Gilded at 8 (formerly9 ) and the myth at 10+ ā¦
Iāve done 1x 10 key last week and this weekā¦ and I just dont feel like grinding any furtherā¦ it just feel so pointless. So strict on their requirements.
I was having fun when I was gearing up 4,5,6 charactersā¦ but then when i realized how greedy bliz was being with the gilded & myth vault (Time gating us for more sub timeā¦) I dropped down to 1 characterā¦ and Now I just barely have the motivation to even play that 1 character.
I leveled a warrior recentlyā¦ but idk. I just dont know how to explain it other than it feels absolutely disgusting to grind so hardā¦ for such minimal rewardsā¦
Maybe it would not feel this way if I had not played in the past and know what it felt like to gear up in the pastā¦ But you combine the greedy changes to myth vault and gilded with this bull crap need greed system that absolutely never works in pugs because I have not one single time seen a roll where someone didnt click Need on gear that is lower than what they already haveā¦
No one even cares, they just need everything now.
I got three 95+ rolls simultaneouslyā¦ and lost ALL THREEā¦ on the same raid boss!! But its not just that. I have 8x chars lvl 80 and in total I might have gotten 2 or 3 pieces from raid finder. TOTAL among all of them!
There is no way, blizzard does not know how bad this isā¦ they just dont care because they want us to have the illusion of chances of gear w/o actually rewarding us the gear because they seem to believe it results in more playtime. And maybe it does idk they have the statistics so I guess theyāll do whats best for them ā¦ but I assure you it causes people to unsub, and causes resentment among. Ive seen more posts than I can remember saying similar things.
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I think when people say the system feels like garbage, they mean the new squished down key levels and higher difficulty. So yes. I agree.
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Even so, S3 was able to push further. I feel the climb to KSH was easier in S4 because it wad half the keys but overall ease goes to S3
Oh, so tank trinkets are supposed to be worse than useless, and iām supposed to thank you for explaining to me that a tank trinket, ātankā ātrinketā that has no stats and only works when you arenāt tanking is fantastic. How about you stop being a lame apologist?
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People really liked season 3 + 4 of dragonflight because vdh and prot paladin were meta. Those specs could solo kick and deal with most of the mob mechanics by themselves and the dungeons were miserable with a different tank spec.
Really just goes to show what people actually enjoy.
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More proof you dont understand what the changes were thats being discussed.
You can use whatever trinkets you want
Holy strawman. Where did i say any of this lol youre pulling that one from far left field.
Sounds to me like you dont know how to utilize your trinket is all
Hell arenāt most tanks still using non tank trinkets anyway, swramlord is good, but arakara is top tier
Yeah. Im not sure why Sac is still top tier. Must be the stat boost.
I want the on use Mastery trinket myself so when i pop Lunar Beam and get +30% Mastery i can stack another 6k on top of it
Iāve had it stack up to 7-8 times during fights which is like 8k primary stat. Itās just a really decent statstick in a season where most of the trinkets are below average
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i warned you lot this would happen. did you listen to me? NOOOO. you all laughed at me. WHOSE LAUGHING NOW? spoiler: I AM.
no this not the thread its other thread.
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Yeah checks out. Ive seen 5 stacks on this guy. I dont have it on a tank yet. I have noticed the damage is negligible but it must all he throughput that i havent paid attention to
You miss being able to just stun/knock mobs so they never did anything?
The days of DH just CCāing casts for insane amounts of time, especially with an aug?