M+ bans waves have begun

I did a 10 siege tonight with 19 deaths and we still timed it so already your first two sentences are fake news.

That is your opinion.

I want people to be able to vote for a group disband.

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so toxic elitist leavers

Blizzard’s statements were specific in stating that this was targeting specific patterns of behavior. This wasn’t “welp he left 5 keys this week, time for a suspension”, it was “this person leaves keys very frequently, often within the first few minutes of the key starting, or even immediately after the key started”.

Toxic/deliberately destructive behavior is what was dealt with, not people who infrequently leave keys.

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Can you explain specifically what power it gives to the group members?

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Where is your analysis that it does?

Full step by step analysis of what it does, how that empowers groups, and why this would be an improvement over what we have now.

Just stating that it does over and over again isn’t a good argument, it’s just trolling.

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BlizZard can make the rules to adhere to if necessary. Nothing is set in stone.

And apparently with their actions against those bricking M+ key they are apparently changing their stance on this issue. Probably will do the same on the PVP side soon.

Which is why I anticipate a group vote disband option materializing at some point IMVHO.

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You dont need to. If you dont want to be there, you just leave.

Youre not being empowered by having to rely on others to make your choice for you

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It’s pretty obvious that he doesn’t want to be there, as his entire PvE dungeon experience appears to be: maybe does LFD.

Again you are focusing on the individual and not the group. That is the whole point of a group disband vote option.

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At this point its clear you have no actual point and are just trolling.

I typically ignore you, because that is what you do. You show up. Be Anti-WoW. Talk about “BlizZard”. And spin trolling word salads.

I wanted to see if you had changed. You havent.

So anyways, moving on. Too tired for trolls at this point.

And just so I am clear.

Yes. That is you.

Edit : And no, not waiting for a mutual conversation disband vote

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A group disband option that people can vote for is a positive for WoW. That is very simple to understand.

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Due to the lack of information on what may warrant a suspension, I have a feeling we may run into people hearthing to get kicked to somehow avoid getting flagged.

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You can say that as many times as you want, but it doesn’t mean you’ve substantiated the claim.

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You have been asked 2 dozen times to explain why this is true.

All you have done in response is stated your opinion on the matter as if it were a fact.

In light of your refusal to do so, I can only presume you have no explanation because it’s not true.

Because the group is made up of individuals.

Plus what youre asking for, blizzard will not do, as it leads to holding people hostage and blizzard has acted directly against that

There is no plausible explanation that would make sense and he knows it

I dare you to try to hold me hostage in a dungeon :wink: I promise you won’t like it

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That is my opinion. You are passing around your opinion as facts but that is your choice.

I already explained why but people refuse to read. You can’t have a minority or a single person interrupting the play of an entire group. A group disband with no penalty would work really well in PVE and PVP group play.

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I can disband now with no penalty

Lets make a scenario

Person A initiates group disband
Vote fails
Person A leaves group anyway

Where was the empowerment? How did this vote to disband work in the way it was intended? How did it save the others that voted to stay?