Pos The rank based on 9.1.5 avg Spec The spec ( ranking from the 9.1 thread ) 9.1.5 Avg The average of the 25th best parse from every dungeon at 1/5/22. 9.1 Avg The average of the 25th best parse from every dungeon at 9/2/21. %C The percentage change from the 9.1 average based on the 9.1 average. %t The specs percentage of the top specs DPS ( Windwalker 11968 ) RIO The highest IO score for the spec at 1/5/22
Why 15âs?
Because this is a higher key with the most data for all specs.
Why 25th best parse?
Because this is where the difference between adjacent parses is in the 10âs and not the 100âs or 1000âs. So it throws out any outliers and is probably a good representation for the performance of the average good players in optimal conditions.
Data comes from Raider IO and warcraftlogs as of 9/1/21 from pages like these:
Iâm suprised Sub isnât higher⊠Iâm really bad at math and understanding of things like this⊠but I wonder if its because not many people play sub? I mean its the most powerful spec for M+(rogue) and last time I checked on raider dot io more people are playing outlaw
TBH Iâm surprised balance isnât higher on the list with how broken their AoE and ST is right now. Otherwise the rest was not surprising at all, and showcases the poor balance in game right now XD.
The biggest surprise for me was survivals jump. The balance is worse than 9.1 where the lowest spec was 72% of the top ( feral ) which is now 66%. But a lot of that seems to be due Windwalker scaling better or getting buffed more than every other spec despite already being in the top spot.
Iâm glad to see some surprise tbh, Iâve said it elsewhere but survival is actually a great spec, just criminally overlooked and underrepresented. I love playing mine, and more people should give it a shot especially in m+
If this list was showing 20s instead of 15s, Balance would be quite a bit higher. Most boomys are playing venthyr, and in 15s, packs die before they can finish a full Sinful Hysteria ramp.
Itâs still too low to matter. In 15s people pull small so abilities like wild spirits are pog. In a +30 the pulls are completely different and frost mage destroys everything.
Theyâre better about it in Raids. I donât think classes were really designed with the whole TWENTY-SIX MINUTES OF NONSTOP AOE that is M+ content in mind.
Gotta remember that dungeon content before Legion was intentionally trivial entry-level stuff where balance wasnât really a huge concern for⊠anyone.
Jk. The chart does seem to point out WW is a real problem but itâs interesting that many other top m+ specs are middle of the pack for damage (fire, rogues).
Get the âthe key is to low to mean anythingâ stuff every time. Thereâs a few reasons I disagree with this or think that itâs even a useful argument
The data doesnât change that much.
âGoodâ players have non push weeks and run 15âs
Only a very tiny percent of players run much over a 16
But lets look at a small slice of data and compare. The 25th best parse for Windwalker in +20
AVG
Spec
DOS
HoA
MoTS
NW
PF
SD
SoA
ToP
11698
Windwalker @ +15
11595
13050
12630
13040
10279
13682
9733
9575
11615
Windwalker @ +20
11897
12919
12487
13288
9912
13191
9670
9559
Their average goes down by an insignificant amount. In fact, itâs surprisingly close to the same data.
So for ascertaining relative balance and potential of the specs I think the method gives an accurate picture. That a very tiny handful of players can go into higher keys and up their performance isnât a function of the spec, but the extreme coordination of the team and tactics of the run.
And because only a few specs are really represented in higher keys it would skew the relative balance. In short this isnât about what the META specs can do in the highest keys, itâs about how they became META specs.
I would have expected a stronger correlation between DPS and RIO. Itâs still there especially on the tails. The top two DPS have the best RIO, the worst DPS has the worst RIO )
That rogue in the middle appears to be kind of an outlier and always keys with a Windwalker. I would imagine youâd probably see similar patterns with the balance druid.
At any rate thereâs probably only a few hundred people in the 2900+ community ( For example, only 29 balance druids and 8 havoc DHâs above 2900 ) and with the extreme grind required to get conduits and domination gear up to BiS there probably a lot of inertia with specs.
