now that templates in bg's have gone there is a imbalance in lowies' bgs, there a lot of people with overgeared characters that crush other ones and farm honor this way, it is easy to farm honor being a twink than a geared 120 because you have to face much less geared people, templates should come back to 15-119 bgs or at least develop better ways to ensure the enjoy of everyone
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It's understandable that it's frustrating to you and most others but you have to look at the big picture. There are people who are just not good at this game yet love to play it. For those people, they use twinking as a means to get that sense of accomplishment (real or not) that they are not able to get anywhere else in the game. Imagine if you loved playing a game so much yet were not good at any aspect of it. You'd be frustrated too.
Bottom line, don't be frustrated with twinks, feel some compassion for them, given the circumstances surrounding it.
If you cannot find it in your heart to show compassion, there are alternatives. Bear in mind that they are HK-oriented, not strategy-oriented. Use bait/escape mechanics to lure them away from your teammates who are going for objectives such as Rogues sprinting to the outer edge of a BG with 3 of them chasing the Rogue, then vanish. Another option is to run circles around them when going after them. It confuses them to no end.
Another piece of advice if you want to avoid twinks is to do BGs during the times that school is in session. You'll cut the chances of seeing them in half.
Bottom line, don't be frustrated with twinks, feel some compassion for them, given the circumstances surrounding it.
If you cannot find it in your heart to show compassion, there are alternatives. Bear in mind that they are HK-oriented, not strategy-oriented. Use bait/escape mechanics to lure them away from your teammates who are going for objectives such as Rogues sprinting to the outer edge of a BG with 3 of them chasing the Rogue, then vanish. Another option is to run circles around them when going after them. It confuses them to no end.
Another piece of advice if you want to avoid twinks is to do BGs during the times that school is in session. You'll cut the chances of seeing them in half.
I'm just trying to do my part to get people to show some compassion for certain players versus be angry about it. And if doing old raids is your thing, good for you but I'm not sure what it has to do with low level BGs.
They removed templates from level 10-119 bgs?
let's say it's all good trashing people who tries to level with some sporadic bg...
what about the honor farming? i mean i don't think blizzard expected people in order to get high honor ranks make twinks, because being objectives as a twink you are likely more powerful against levelers than geared people are at 120, and that makes easy to win a bg
what about the honor farming? i mean i don't think blizzard expected people in order to get high honor ranks make twinks, because being objectives as a twink you are likely more powerful against levelers than geared people are at 120, and that makes easy to win a bg
“You know who’s had it too good for too long? New players in PvP. We should steepen the barrier to entry.”
- Blizzard Dev, moments before he received a promotion and roaring applause
- Blizzard Dev, moments before he received a promotion and roaring applause
10/22/2018 11:17 AMPosted by Erelir“You know who’s had it too good for too long? New players in PvP. We should steepen the barrier to entry.”
Blizzard could have a separate bracket for new accounts, let it be on an in-game instanced PVP timer (2-3 hours?). Once the "Trial Bracket" timer is up, the account gets merged with the main population.
New players first entry into instanced PVP is 110+, so this would work fine.
Imagine you are a brand new player. The tip suggests battlegrounds to you when you ding 10 (I think?), and that would be your introduction into PvP. They'd have no idea what they're walking into with heirlooms and enchants, etc. It goes beyond, "I worked hard to have an edge." In that context, it would be almost impossible to stand even a slight chance.
Who would stick around for that? It can't be good for player retention in PvP, let alone the overall game. 10-19 could stand to be more balanced, for the sole purpose that it's the introduction to PvP for a lot of people.
Who would stick around for that? It can't be good for player retention in PvP, let alone the overall game. 10-19 could stand to be more balanced, for the sole purpose that it's the introduction to PvP for a lot of people.
New players start at 110?
10/22/2018 12:02 PMPosted by WillybrownNew players start at 110?
Some do, but it can be overwhelming. I would imagine a good portion want to level up from the start. 110-119 isn't exactly balanced either. So that's two points of entry where if you're new it's going to be a huge turn off.
Twinks are scum.
They say they want to fight other twinks but thats hogwash. With templates and scaling in legion you were on equal footing with everyone else. In other words EVERYONE was a twink. (inb4 but muh stat stacking)
With the rejoicing of its removal one can safely assume the majority of these twinks just enjoy dunking on undergeared players.
They say they want to fight other twinks but thats hogwash. With templates and scaling in legion you were on equal footing with everyone else. In other words EVERYONE was a twink. (inb4 but muh stat stacking)
With the rejoicing of its removal one can safely assume the majority of these twinks just enjoy dunking on undergeared players.
10/22/2018 01:22 PMPosted by ValarienTwinks are scum.
Another post from an un-enchanted, un-gemmed character.
Talks about Legion PVP but is still at level 1 Honor.
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10/22/2018 02:55 PMPosted by Willybrown10/22/2018 01:22 PMPosted by ValarienTwinks are scum.
Another post from an un-enchanted, un-gemmed character.
Talks about Legion PVP but is still at level 1 Honor.
Looks like they haven't logged into that character from before prepatch.
10/22/2018 09:06 AMPosted by GreyhideBottom line, don't be frustrated with twinks, feel some compassion for them, given the circumstances surrounding it.
I'll feel some compassion once they stop making my leveling experience less garbage thanks
10/22/2018 03:13 PMPosted by RolderI'll feel some compassion once they stop making my leveling experience less garbage thanks
Take a look at ANY expansion of WOW and you will find videos of players using the best options to defeat others within PVP.
Blizzard has balanced the gearing system in BFA to the finest it has ever been in WOW.
At this point it is all on you to make some effort in order to progress your character/team to glory.
10/22/2018 02:55 PMPosted by Willybrown10/22/2018 01:22 PMPosted by ValarienTwinks are scum.
Another post from an un-enchanted, un-gemmed character.
Talks about Legion PVP but is still at level 1 Honor.
What does that have to do with the facts? your shaman level 1.
twinkers say this is a mmo, that gear matter and that's true but levelers can't achieve the power you twinkers have, why? well in first place twinkers lock their exp, they do that to get the best in slot gear to the level they are, one level beyond and their set is ruined
as a leveler our goal is get to high level, we won't lock our experience bar, and bgs gives a chunk of experience, so is intended by blizzard people to use bgs as a way to reach high level
you guys must have your own queues because you are indeed in another level of competivity
10/22/2018 03:19 PMPosted by Willybrown
Blizzard has balanced the gearing system in BFA to the finest it has ever been in WOW.
I've seen twinks doing 3-4x the damage of normal heirloom-ed players while also being nigh unkillable
Such balance much wow
Edit: And lord have mercy on you if you're a new player and/or don't have heirlooms at the very least, oh buddy
10/22/2018 03:34 PMPosted by Hairyditwell in first place twinkers lock their exp, they do that to get the best in slot gear to the level they are, one level beyond and their set is ruined
Gear is useful for many brackets now. For example, in the level 80-89 bracket, you can use BC, WotLK, Cata, and MoP gear. MoP gear is not the strongest at all. The Spellfire armor (BC set) arguably a strong caster set because of the SP increase from the INT you get from WotLK and Cata gear. Dungeon 3 sets from BC scale to 80, and also arguably as strong.
10/22/2018 04:04 PMPosted by RolderSuch balance much wow
Here are some images to compare the stat differences within the 39 bracket.
This system is the same all the way up the lower brackets.
https://imgur.com/a/jKMmGJF
Notice the tiny increment of stats?
Here is another image comparing some 120 stat differences.
https://imgur.com/a/nuGsrLQ
Interesting stat difference here.
The gearing system for lower levels is amazingly balanced as the numbers show.
Overtuned items, gems, specs are a separate argument, which Blizzard needs to address. And yet all of the above are easy to obtain by any active player.
Fact: Gearing is indeed at its most balanced mathematically for lower levels.
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10/22/2018 05:18 PMPosted by WillybrownOvertuned items, gems, specs are a separate argument
No they're not?