ah. I dont know what I got the hunter up to. I tried 9 classes in classic…some got higher level than others.
SO beastmastery is available to both SV and MM in classic, I assume?
In Classic, you can pick talents from any category you want, once you hit level 10 and up.
Also at level 10, you will get to start a quest chain to learn how to tame beasts to fight alongside you as pets.
That is when the Beast Mastery spellbook tab shows up for you as well.
Again, not tied to what Specializations are.
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The POINT, since I think youre now being intentionally obtuse about this given how many times Ive said the same thing over and over again…is that you START with a MELEE spell with Survival.
That kinda sets the tone for whatever youre playing in pretty much any game Ive ever played.
You haven’t read a single thing I’ve written in the last…hour, have you?
I honestly can’t tell if you’re just trolling me or not.
Just to make it clear:
Yes, you can find melee abilities and effects in your Survival-tab in the spellbook.
That, has nothing to do with Specializations.
It’s only a way for you to better keep track of all your abilities and effects.
Since Beast Mastery back then(talents as well as in the spellbook) only focused on pets/beasts. Nothing else.
Marksmanship(talents and in the spellbook) only focused on the ranged weapon itself.
Survival(talents and in the spellbook) focused on/contained everything that did not fit into either Beast Mastery or Marksmanship.
That still does not mean that Survival was a Core Specialization back then. That still does not mean that you started as melee back then.
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Me too. Frankly, I don’t know how they’re going to pull off of class identity without considerable changes to the classes most affected by the spec identity changes.
They said no major changes, but Ion is notoriously bad at saying one thing and doing the opposite (Corruption is a great example).
So anything is possible. The thing that scares me the most is that Ion is prone to doubling down on things the community dislikes. He is like the Donald Trump of game directors. I wouldn’t be surprised to see 3 melee specs for Hunters in Shadowlands.
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no…thats why ive been quoting you.
What it sounds like is youre now accusing me of what youre doing…not paying attention to what is being said.
I’ll ask you again…did you just latch on to some random point I made to have someone to argue with? Not much of anything in this exchange is fruitful or of any consequence.
I LIKE SV…end of story. Nothing you or anyone else can say will change that as SV exists right now.
SV is fun, fast paced, survives well, has a great interrupt and deals decent DPS.
Other than that I think I really dont think we have much more to toss out to one another
See below. Hopefully it clears things up.
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I’d recommend that you do take care of yourself. All you’ve been doing lately is lashing out at people that goes against you or your thinking, so much that all you seem to reply with, to show and to know is… hatred.
You’re attacking everyone now, we’re all humans here, equal on a debate. Trying to show others reason.
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It also had improved Aspects.
Mainly focused on adding improved melee functionality to your core.
“I LIKE SV…end of story. Nothing you or anyone else can say will change that as SV exists right now.
SV is fun, fast paced, survives well, has a great interrupt and deals decent DPS.
Other than that I think I really dont think we have much more to toss out to one another”
The humorous part is some seem to be taking it personal that I/we like something about this game. As though its a personal jab at them.
Kinda childish, if you ask me.
Quit typing this drivel as if you were a dev who decided to put the “extra stuff” that didn’t fit into SV. They put it there because that’s how they designed the class, not because it didn’t fit anywhere. And it takes a special level of obtuseness to say the spells a class started with didn’t reflect the general nature of a class. Would be the only class throughout any single MMO ever…
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Doesnt seem to be rocket science on that one.
Every game Ive ever seen starts you out in the general direction of the class design
Now you are trolling. That logic would imply ALL hunters were designed to be melee.
Go ahead. Level to 60 and raid as melee. Please send me you parses. If you can do that, then I will never broach the subject again. If you can’t then you’re full of it.
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give a rest…no one cares that you dont know about other games.
it wouldnt imply anything of the sort, and how you concluded that is …well…yeah
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So you can’t? It appears the mystery is solved.
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like I said…how you concluded that…is …seriously weird lol
SV is a great spec. Dont like it, dont play it. Dont make excuses that it sucks because its just fine and my ‘parses’ aint got squat to do with it.
What amuses me is how its killing some in here that many of us LOVE survival and are having a great time with it and doing just fine with the spec 
One must not doubt the wealth of experience the Hunter God has demonstrated. No no, that is not the way!
No need for any silly logical measurements now that we have divine quantum napkin theory. There is only the guidance and view of the hunter god, follow that and conquer all!
His lessons are so beautiful, Ohmmmm
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heh…I aint the one claiming I cant play the spec, friend
git gud
Oh you jest your holyness, none of us could compare ourselves to your greatness
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as they say…‘git gud’. Stop blaming the spec. Aint a thing wrong with it 