They could, but I doubt anyone would buy it. Like I said, the people that can reach the 5 million mark aren’t hard working players that hustle… they’re people that know how to play the AH or made millions off the mission table and all of them either have it or have no desire for it (and most certainly wouldn’t pay more than 5 million for it).
Considering the previous gold sink mounts are still in the game, there’s no reason for them to remove this mount. Besides GREED.
Secondly, you apparently cared enough to come in here and be a snarky little butt fedora.
Third, enough people care that Blizzard was FORCED to make an official response about the matter.
This is how you con people out of money. As the years go by World of Warcraft is becoming less a game and more a virtual shopping experience. Sad.
They’re trying to be sly about doing MTX without the label of MTX.
I mean think about it. “The mount / pet / etc is only available for a limited time. It costs a lot of gold. But you can get that gold with tokens!”
It’s a way of distracting the players from realizing that they’re basically engaging in MTX.
this is a shame. I was actually looking forward to buying this in the future. Even if it took me 3-4 years. One less thing to strive for now. I’ve missed out on one of the three aotc mounts due to a break. That was bad enough. Missing another one just pisses me off. I don’t know why you guys are so determined to piss your players off.
This, quite honestly, made me lmfao. Thank you for that.
I agree that the move is motivated by greed, completely. But, I’m also incredibly amused by the notion that someone could be senseless enough to pay the over $500 that would be required to attain this mount through tokens in a game that they are already paying to play.
I’d be really interested to see the figures on token sales after they make it unobtainable because I think the number of people willing to do it would be staggering. And that is the most depressing part of all of this.
They can literally do whatever they want and people will still throw money at them.
And to think Ion saying lot of nonsense in Q&As in regards to High Elves and adding Diaper Gnomes, removing Season 1 Dread Gladiator best transmog coloring for War Effort gear this couldnt get any worse.
Blizzard, Ion and developers only think about themselves. They dont think about their fans and hard works and efforts to support this game.
You guys really have proven yourself that you want to kill this MMORPG after Shadowlands. Good job.
If they cared about people not being able to buy it at 5 million, then they wouldn’t have put it on the vendor for 5 million in the first place.
I would be very surprised if this went on the BMAH for less than it costs now.
I love when people claim Blizzard to be money hungry, but those same people turn around and spend hundreds of dollars buying new Overwatch licenses to smurf on. Anyway, the way I see it is this… BfA was literally the first expansion that I hit near to 1mil gold, before then though my biggest achievement in that regard was somewhere around 200k.
When Shadowlands drops I imagine the people who take advantage of fresh expansion mats, and any BoE drops among the zones it’ll be easier to get the gold to acquire the 5 million gold mount. The last vendor mount that had come out before then was the Yak, which is what? 180k? Quite the jump up to 5mil, making the mount less prestigious.
The mount going to the BMAH will make the mount more affordable anyway considering anyone with the amount of money to dump on it right now already have it, or don’t care about it either way.
People always assume the worst, and it’s kinda sad honestly. Just because you don’t agree with something, doesn’t make it any more truthful. The people who were going to spend the amount of money on the tokens for the mount would have done so already, no average player is going to dump hundreds of dollars just for one mount for exclusivity. That’s not to say that there wont be those types of people, but on average casual players aren’t going to care, and the majority of the people in this thread are mad to be mad, and never had much of, if at all intention to buy the mount in the first place, unless it’s three expansions down the line due to gold inflation.
First - while true involving the vendor aspect, this isn’t true for the aspect of a gold sink. We also had the Lightforged Warframe, which was a 500k gold sink, and then the black widow spider, which was a 2m gold sink. The Brutosaur isn’t as much of a jump as people make it out to be when keeping in mind these facts.
Second - the mount going to the BMAH has also been confirmed to be stripped of its vendors entirely, making the point behind purchasing it no longer part of the equation anyway. So this isn’t true.
Since you guys disabled downvoting on blue posts because of your insecurity we can’t know the exact ratio of likes to dislikes. However you currently have only 17 likes and 118 replies…
I actually bet that token sales are already spiking after the announcement lol.
Next step is the “I wouldn’t have spent $500 if I knew you were going to decide to keep the brutosaur at a vendor” threads if/when they reverse the decision.
Either direction this goes, it’s probably going to be a lot of fun.
Anyone?
I give this one a week before everyone cries themselves out over it.
But I do think it’s going to be funny.
I guess, but it still stands that anyone who was going to get the mount FOR the vendors already have it. More than likely Blizzard already have something planned for a future vendor mount, possibly a more affordable one thus removing the vendors on the BMAH version.
To be fair, anything to crash the token market is always nice as well. However to be fair, I don’t think this is going to push token sales anymore than what there are currently. It might push the whales to buy some, but tokens are not going to be sold in droves and it’s not going to effect much of anything in the long run.
I doubt it. The reason why this is a huge problem is because of information not being conveyed. I’ve said it repeatedly. The problem involving this whole situation is every time something has been time sensitive, we were told way in advance. Beginning of the expansion, or the second something was implemented and would be time sensitive.
This was not. This was handled extremely poorly.
Yes, and no. They probably should have said something sooner, but at the beginning of Legion they didn’t say that the mage tower would be time exclusive. Even when it came out they never mentioned it until the next expansion was shown at Blizzcon.
Why is Blizzard removing this from the vendors? What is the logic behind this decision?
The entire reason for pricing the Brutosaur mount at 5 million gold was to act as a gold sink to get the players sitting on millions of gold to spend it and remove the gold from the economy because a small percentage of players had extremely high bank accounts in game. The entire goal was to remove gold from the system.
Removing the Brutosaur from being obtainable by 5 million from a vendor only detracts from the game and adds nothing of value by either gold sink logic, or player logic and enjoyment of having a solid goalpost to work towards. Making it a BMAH item only dumps more unwanted and unnecessary RNG into the game - and this is in the middle of Blizzard trying to show the playerbase that they are working to move away from that kind of RNG (Corrupted gear, Shadowlands expansion, Blizzcon, etc.), and toward respecting players’ time, effort, and enjoyment.
By making it BMAH only, Blizzard are saying that even if you have 5 million gold to spend on it, you still have to wait RNG days for it to show in the BMAH, then have to RNG hope that you have enough to outbid everyone else. Meanwhile, all the other people with 5 million plus gold who want the mount are competing bidding on the same single mount. And only one of those players can actually buy the mount and spend the gold as a gold sink.
For example: theoretically while you could have 10,000 people x 5 million gold (50 billion gold) removed from the game over the next 1 year by leaving it on a vendor for purchase to anyone with the money to offer; instead you will have it appear on the BMAH at RNG, so far less than 100 times a year x gold cap even if gold cap is raised to 20 million in Shadowlands (equivalent of 2 billion gold removed in 1 year if on BMAH 100 times a year). To sink the equivalent amount of gold via BMAH auction wins alone, you would need to have the Brutosaur directly appear on the BMAH 2,500 times in a single year, sold at gold cap (of 20 million). You can only have about 730 black market auctions in a single year per server if they each last 12 hours.
Alternatively the BMAH crates have RNG to drop the Brutosaur mount, with over 200 possible items that can be in the crate, but still only a single winner each time a crate is sold. So maybe a single player on one server drops 80 million to win every single crate from the BMAH for a year until they get the Brutosaur. OR you could have had at least 16 players on that server who just straight out purchased the Brutosaur for 5 million gold that year to remove the same amount of gold. And then also removed from the economy 5 million x however many other players on that single server had amassed 5 million gold to drop on the mount.
Because only the single player winning the BMAH container actually pays for it.
Meanwhile, there are far more players in game who want the mount, but don’t yet have the 5 million gold to spend right now, than there will be actually winning the BMAH even over a 5 year span. So while the BMAH method might guarantee for decades to come that there will be people who want the Brutosaur and do not yet have it (even if they have the current asking price, or even if they have more than the 5 million current price and are willing to drop that much more) - it does not actually remove all of their excess gold.
In fact, by making the Brutosaur a BMAH only item, Blizzard are guaranteeing and encouraging that more players will be farming gold straight to gold cap again, even if they don’t need or want to otherwise, in order to gold cap the BMAH to get the mount. Most of these players would never have wanted or enjoyed farming all that gold, but would have to in order to get that mount, and then hope they place the first gold cap bid on the RNG times the mount actually appears on the BMAH.
Blizzard is once again fishing for ‘whales’ instead of leaving the effective gold sink, they created, working as intended. How about, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it,” Blizzard, instead?
A far more efficient gold sink is to just leave the Brutosaur mount available on the vendors for 5 million gold. So everyone in the future who eventually gets 5 million gold and wants the mount can purchase it and dump that gold out of the economy.
If Blizzard wants to sink more gold out of the economy, then in addition to selling it for 5 million on the vendor, they can ALSO add the Brutosaur to the BMAH rotation much like other rare but achievable mounts such as the Heavenly Onyx Cloud Serpent, etc. Then even players who don’t yet have 5 million can try their luck at bidding on it, or RNG for the boxes. Or even just raise the vendor price for the Brutosaur to match gold cap inflation in Shadowlands expansion.
Just keep it realistically obtainable through actual effort as a solid goal, rather than hide it away behind RNG on top of RNG lootboxes.
Personally, for me, it may have been multiple expansions later, but it felt good and satisfying to finally have the gold to buy the Traveller’s Tundra Mammoth vendor mount. That feeling is rare these days in WoW. Blizzard should not be removing things that give that sort of feeling of accomplishment to their players, only to lock it behind the same kind of RNG that the playerbase has been very vocal about not wanting more of.
But the sad truth is, Blizzard probably don’t care about it being a gold sink anymore. No, what they’re looking for in doing this is a TIME SINK for players, to coerce players to keep playing, keep farming, keep buying playtime tokens or paying subscriptions, to keep playtime hour numbers high for shareholder meetings, even if the number of hours is disassociated from the actual number of players logging into the game.
If they were really concerned with gold sinks in game to try to ease the inflation of the economy for newer players (and older players too), they wouldn’t be removing effective gold sinks for a much less effective method. If they cared they would not be removing solid content goals for the players and replacing it with unwanted RNG on top of unnecessary RNG.
This BMAH ‘fix’ for the Brutosaur is just RNG lootbox microtransactions in disguise. The only difference is that Blizzard is charging ‘playtime hours’ as currency rather than straight real world cash transactions. And for their shareholder meetings, ‘playtime hours’ statistics are money.
Like all dinosaurs, the Mighty Caravan Brutosaur’s days are numbered. I can confirm that when Shadowlands goes live, the shady vendors Talutu and Tricky Nick will cease selling it.
Why Though??
haven’t you guys at Blizzard annoyed enough customers this year?
getting an early start on next years quota?
/mind.boggled.
You and I will have to agree to disagree here. The Mage Tower wasn’t even something we knew about. All we knew was it was going to be one of the most challenging pieces of content in the game, and from a very early point in its existence, we knew it would be time sensitive. These forums blew up about it even.
I will never approve of what happened here. We should have been informed much earlier.
For people who were not active during Mage tower they got screwed