The best way, IMO, to describe LFR is that yes is has “Looking for Raid” as the title but it is not a valid raid type because it is a mode that designed more of the story rather than the gameplay. It is designed for the solo player, the player who does not have a lot of time to play and/or people who do not want to commit to a raid team. It is more or less the “quick play” of WoW. The biggest issues with LFR that I can’t stand is that it does not teach you anything. The biggest example of this was back in Legion during the raid Tomb of Sargeras. In that raid there was a boss called the Desolate Host. On Norm and above you had to split your raid. Half go to the Living Side and Half to the dead side. Kill the 2 mini bosses in there at the same time until the Host comes out and blow the Host up and you win. On LFR you NEVER even got to fight the Host. It is for reasons like this that LFR can not and will not ever be taken seriously until it is revised much like the new Starting Area. It needs to train you how to do certain mechanics like: Using your interrupts, properly using your CDs, knowing how to stutter cast as a caster and a mix of other tools that will help players get better and make their WoW experience more enjoyable.
And this shows you are past the learning part
Some people view it as carry mode due to determination stacks. Personally I could care less about LFR and view it as a tool to allow players that don’t want to do normal for whatever reason to be able to see the story or gear their alts.
And when that happens and the raid wipes those people get vote kicked .
Usually it is only a couple of people at any given time .
Nobody refers to LFR players as raiders; even the players doing LFR don’t refer to themselves raiders.
When people make their threads on the GD chastising the “evil toxic raiders,” they never mean LFR players.
If all that is true, which it is, how is it then that we’re saying LFR is raiding? lol. People only want it to be considered raiding when it benefits a certain side of a coin in a given discussion.
Obviously, the word “raid” is in it. But this is a social game, and social constructs matter. LFR not being a raid is a social construct that people follow. It is what it is. It’s not an insult, and I don’t think LFR-exclusive players think it is either because they don’t even call themselves raiders.
This seems like made up outrage over nothing.
To be honest the elitist think they are the elite players but they aren’t .
The real elite players honestly don’t care . This whole thing isn’t about getting AOTC or CE mounts because if it was normal would be excluded too.
It should be in all levels including LfR as a thank you by Blizz for players just subbing to play in this filler patch of a crap show expansion .
It’s story mode.
Oh yeah not knowing mechanics was a guaranteed win on LfR N’zoth even after 10 stacks of determination 
Here is a question
If you go into a players armory and click on the Dungeon/Raid tab.
How is LfR counted as a raid difficulty if it isn’t a raid ?
Saying Looking for Raid is raiding because it has the word “Raid” in it is like saying Fruit Loops contains a whole bowl of fruit because “Fruit” is in the name.
It’s like saying a Taco Salad is healthy because it has the word “salad” in the name.
It is raiding. It is just not listed as one of the raiding difficulties. Loophole I guess?
In the very next breath they say “LFR is harder than Normal anyway”.
LFR is the raid designed for more people to experience the end of the story and see the end game cinematic. It is raiding. Doesn’t mean the rewards are the same in every difficulty but the mount could be a part of rewards. I just see it as encouragement to try the normal version.
I do.
LFR Raiders love raiding with raid finder.
I do. I consider LFR players tryhards. They’re simply too sweaty for me.
No, it’s not.
Because it is. Says so right in the name.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Same here. Most of those that scream about LFR horror stories are exaggerations.
No most of the time it is the very horror story you hear about. Even last week just before the end of the season we got groups of people wiping to the Jailer encounter 7+ times. That hour of my life was wasted because people can’t be bothered to even read the in-game boss information provided to them. It isn’t the groups job to hold their hand and explain everything. Yet that is what is needed most of the time.
I only took away the heart to preserve the 69.
LFR is raiding. In my guild the congratulations are even bigger for pug stuff because we know how trying it can be.
i don’t think it is tbh…
at the end of the day i don’t think it’s a matter of difficulty - it’s more a matter of effort and how much people are willing to put in. (learning mechanics, teamwork, communicating, gearing up properly, actually getting a group together, etc.)
I believe most LFR players are more than capable of doing the raids on normal mode, they’re just not as motivated as someone that actively does end game content above it.
And i have been in normal pugs where the exact same thing happens. It isnt exclusive to lfr.
I am with you. If everyone who signed up for LFR actually, and LITERALLY, AFKed or did nothing, you would never clear it. It does take SOME effort, although not as much as mythic. But isn’t that the point? The people that say it takes no effort are the ones who AFK .
Looking for what? Looking for story right? Looking for replica raid? No, no it’s called, looking for Raid. Man, english is freaking hard when people start to play semantic games.
“No, no sorry sir, that word’s meaning isn’t really the meaning. No, see any means one quarter of 4”