“My belief that people respeccing to heal or tank ST are noobs is correct because it’s my belief.”
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How is the PvP change inconsequential?
Despite pservers faults there weren’t hundreds if not thousands of bots that could openly fly hack and injecting raw gold into the economy. Makes WK selling R14s under the table seem like a drop in the bucket.
You don’t need to respec for any dungeon content in the game. Arguing we need dual spec for dungeons makes you look like you’re bad at the game, and everyone else can smell it.
Do you really want to engage in an arguement where you’re defending the pvp system that forced players to devolve their lives in order to get rank14? the same system r14 players are sying is garbage? thats not going to end well for you.
If you actually believe people were not making bank off of pservers you were very lucky to live in that bubble of yours.
I adhere to the dual spec being too big of a change crowd.
As someone who has always played on PvP servers I’ve loved to have my specs be all around good at dungeons, raids and PvP instead of min maxing for one.
Dual spec changes this by always having the best spec available to you for whatever you are doing.
It diminishes the value of “my” character and the value I placed on being well rounded for any activity.
Now it’s cookie cutter or go home.
People want to diminish the impacts of dual spec as just being quality of life but fail to see the deeper deterioration of the role playing aspect of the game as your character loses its “identity”
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Yes, because I actually play and enjoy this game for what it is. That doesn’t mean I don’t think the original system is bad or can be changed; but the change they made is objectively bad. There’s another thread of Era players complaining that it is now completely dysfunctional with the amount of active players, where as the old system would still work perfectly fine. So they change was bad and not inconsequential in anyway. It destroyed WSG/AB participation, destroyed the social feature of having to premade and make friends, and the system now doesn’t work where as if it remained unchanged it would be fine.
Feel free to misrepresent everything I said like you did below.
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no that would be subjective. Thats your opinion. The new system requires less constant time online and less in-fighting among same-faction members.
If you don’t have data to back this up then no one is going to believe you. Wow now has 5+ versions of the same game running simultaneously. Nobody divides their playerbase like blizzard does.
Oh boy. One of those guys who only plays premades and excludes a third of the classes in the game.
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No, not really. There’s not a lot of healing gear at those lower levels, it’s mostly just intel gear. There are talents that increase your healing output but it’s percentage based, so a small percentage on a small number isn’t a big difference.
As long as you don’t suck, you can heal every dungeon in the game without actually being heal spec, just slap on the appropriate gear and you’re fine. If you do suck, then you just use a hybrid spec and you’re also fine. Every healer is in the same boat.
This is all stuff that’s well known about Vanilla for many years. It sounds like people cried for dual spec before they even bothered to look up what the builds are, let alone read the talents to figure out how they could develop a hybrid build that caters to their play style.
I love how you instantly always bring up the persons real life, including his kids.
You are 1 of the most toxic people here, along with being 1 of the worst players here.
You think the way you worded it makes it any less toxic?
You’re a selective reader. The system currently doesn’t work with the amount of players participating in PvP on the Era cluster, where as the old system was adaptive to population.
You need data cited to you because you’re not actively PvPing on vanilla. I was before and after the change. Months later, you will have several AVs with 80 people in them when WSG struggles to get two games open.
Anyone who thinks there were no changes in Classic realms needs to read the WoWpedia patch notes from 1.01 to 1.12, taking note of when the changes were made in relation to raid releases.
My favorite is Arcane Explosion having a cast time until NAXX came out. Classic was never anywhere near Vanilla.
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Classic Era was sold to us as a version that would remain unchanged from the time TBC Classic was released, not as a perfect authentic recreation of original vanilla.
no it did not. Imagine playing an mmorpg and thinking “this will never change”
It was marketed that way. Now you’re just lying and moving goalposts.
Some of the players here are so pitiful man.
Whos lying?
Classic Era was marketed as a unchanged version of vanilla 2019 Classic when TBC Classic was launched. I never said anything about Anniversary Classic.
Cata player lmao. Still level 18. Never gonna see you in WSG. 
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Im not level 18…Do you not know how the forums work?
This thread is about Fresh.
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Do you know how context works?
#nochanges has proven the best design philosophy for Classic. Original Classic was by far the most popular version. The more changes Blizz makes, the less popular Classic has become.
You could alway go play SoD, or Cata if you want a Classic full of changes. That’s what they’re made for.
And of course the great irony is that the #changes people are who the Classic team has listened to (or more likely the devs simply think that way), and we’ve seen Classic crumble as a result.
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