Classic has received tons of changes that the no changes crowd hasn’t approved of over the last 5 years. Chronoboon being a massive one. Classic Era is continuously changed due to SoD and the changes are never fixed. Wrath migrants pushed for changes to the PvP system after a population boom.
People with max levels on retail coming over and telling Classic players that they should just accept them gentrifying their game and not saying anything about it is delusional.
Duel spec was introduced for players who think they need to fully respec to heal a dungeon. They know so little about the game but demand changes to it.
So was mine. There’s LOADS of changes in Era.
It’s OK to think they did not change enough. But to call Era unchanged is either delusional or dishonest.
To heal lvl 40+ dungeons? You usually do need to respec. Tanking less so, but you’re still going to want defiance and the extra mitigation for everything after SM.
It also gives flexibility to raid rosters, allows more people to play pvp, etc.
Suggesting it’s just for people who don’t know they can heal rfk as enhance is wild when you can’t even purchase it until 40.
No you don’t. You SHOULD respec for BRD because that’s when the game gets going, but depending how good your heal set is you don’t need to. I can heal Zul’farrak as shadow with Vampiric Embrace and Renew.
Arms is the better dungeon tanking spec. You think you need Defiance because you’re playing as prot and your threat is terrible. That is a self inflicted issue.
This is the only reason I’m somewhat for it, I just don’t like how it was implemented. The game is on a faster timeline and people won’t have the time to farm the gold to respec.
You should have to go to the trainer to change specs, it’s how the game was designed. It leads to questionable abilities in WPvP and trivializes the class trainers.
I never mentioned RFK. All you need to change role in a dungeon is a different set of gear, even at 60.
Up until SS at 30. Charge - SS - zerker - WW - then it’s defensive stance the rest of the pull. You hit defiance talents at lvl 41 for tanking 5 mans. Going to MS or whatever else you’re talking about in arms isn’t close to correct, and at 60 it’s fury prot anyway.
You can heal 5 mans up to 60 as shadow and not wipe, but 40+ is where the specs start to really separate. No one wants to wait for you to drink every pull (or wipe if my taunt is on cd at the wrong time) when there are holy specs in lfg.
So again, right about when respecs start to make sense is when it’s available (lvl 40).
Nothing important was changed about era. nothing. 100% nothing.
For me it is the correct thing to do because I play on PvP servers, and you have to pick and choose what’s good for raw leveling and what’s good for defending yourself. Not having at least MS or BS by level 40 is CBT to the highest degree.
Priest is my main class. Healing as shadow isn’t a problem at all. Even at 60 there are no required talents for healing as priest. Playing Holy is just for top level healer parsing. Disc really only helps your instance casts and maximum mana.
It makes zero sense for anyone that actually plays vanilla WoW. You don’t need a second leveling spec. It’s a waste of gold.
if you played vanilla you would know this is not true
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I have hit 60 on every server since Nostalrius.
Then you should know adding anything to sink more gold is good for the game.
You should also know that healers having to respec constantly to farm gold to raid is reason enough for duel spec. But also having to change spec constantly for players that pvp and pve just resulted in players who would bring pvp spec to raid.
If you can’t concede those then you’re too lost in the sauce and you should find some perspective.
Special kind of stupid to think dual spec as it stands is adding a gold sink and not severely nerfing a preexisting one.
I already said I’m not completely against dual spec because the game is on a faster timeline, I just think how it was implemented is bad.
That’s just a bad raider. Every guild I’ve been in has had an understanding I don’t play the game for PvE, and I respec for PvE out of good faith to the guild. This has gotten me very far on several characters in getting the gear I wanted.
For players that stick to one spec for everything, it’s a bigger gold sink. (specs like healing priest for example who can play the same thing the whole time)
For people who swap pvp and pve frequently or who swap raid spec -farm spec frequently then it saves them gold in the immediate, but the cost of duel spec doesn’t stop at duel spec.
If you get duel spec and then change your spec afterwards your costs increase. Just getting duel spec doesn’t mean people are spending less gold.
Oh my god, seriously? THAT’S THE POINT OF DUAL SPEC. Not “noobs can’t heal dungeons.”
You’re contradicting your own argument.
It’s astounding how many people such as yourself have no desire to understand other perspectives. Your only purpose for being here is to gaslight and argue. There appears to be no other reason whatsoever, certainly not a mature one.
Then I start feeling bad for those that you deal with on a day-to-day basis, especially family members and even more kids, because this horrific arguing style is probably not just on the forums unless it’s only being done here to troll. It’s incredibly toxic.
I agree with you that there often are changes with rereleases and we can accept them or move on. Voicing complaints is another thing that we are allowed to do, however.
Classic 2019 was close enough to Vanilla for me (someone who started in open beta and played at release) and I didn’t expect it to be then either but I got what I wanted with there. History repeated itself 15 years later for me, despite your insistence that it can not.
Era isn’t a “nochanges” classic and you should at least admit to that - but seeing your posts lately it’s pretty obvious that you lack the character traits and humility to own up to being incorrect, so you just double down.
Bro, nothing impactful was changed about classic era. It’s still the same game with the most minor of changes. The one big change they did was reversed. You think I’m gaslighting? the gaslighting is that blizzard has massively changed classic by adding duel-spec. The gaslighting is that people say duel spec makes this game retail (despite duel spec being a classic thing and is is a legacy achievement on retail) Gas lighting is people here claiming a sound bug changed the game in a way that makes it a different game.
We can’t even have the discussion on changes about the game because this community stubs their toe on every inconsequential thing that half of them never noticed before the slight change. Those people will never be happy and entertaining them just makes everyone look foolish.
It’s not a contradiction if I think that is apart of the game and not a flaw in it’s design.
We can explain in detail how these things impact the game but you will just handwave it and say it doesn’t matter.
You’ve got it in your head that inconsequential things are the biggest of deals. The only one who can fix that level of mental gymastics is you brother. The richest irony of it all is how many of y’all used to play blizzlike private servers that used to always do changes to XP or drop rates or w/e that had a much bigger impact than anything we have here. Or oh i remember the unique mounts you could pay real $ for on blizzlike servers.