Lol WoW pay to win confirmed

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

But I comes before E except after C, hence pay 2 win.

[Anon-dalaran]

@Tovi-moon-guard

I bought all the AOTC with tiny amounts of gold. It was worth it to me to spend that gold to get it now than spend nights watching some boring Twitch stream and to cross my fingers in hopes I get in.

yeah sure. I believe you.

[Benmarch-zuljin]

Did the player who bought the token with his gold from the AH got his gold easy?

[Estalayia-borean-tundra]

@Tovi-moon-guard

I bought all the AOTC with tiny amounts of gold. It was worth it to me to spend that gold to get it now than spend nights watching some boring Twitch stream and to cross my fingers in hopes I get in.

So I’m not sure what you’re feeling sorry for. I feel more sorry for the people having to watch the same fight over and over and over and over

Like I said, it’s your gold, spend it how you like. I just don’t spend my gold on anything, that IK I can get for free

[Lunkel-garona (Lunkel)]

@Anon-dalaran

having options to get the “win” doesn’t mean paying real life money for it isnt pay to win.

The only option is where the gold comes from.

Roll a character on a server with no other players. How many tokens do you need to buy for mythic raid gear?

[Shiroo-thrall]

@Anon-dalaran

Did one of the top guilds spokespersons told you that? That’s so on brand for them. Oh you.

Lol what? No, it’s a known fact and guilds have been doing this for years. Even before tokens were a thing.

[Dokthar-wyrmrest-accord]

more than you are allowed to buy, in a year. lol

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

Good? I guess? I dunno, I feel like I’m suppose to care if you believe me? Is that right?

[Anon-dalaran]

@Shiroo-thrall

, it’s a known fact and guilds

Oh word? it’s a known fact?

[Allibankalt-stormrage]

Since they did it before the token existed, yea

[Krad-moon-guard]

@Allibankalt-stormrage

Even then no it doesnt because PVP is mostly skill based

Yeah when you start to get to really high rating. Even still you have booster glad players that have are really skilled and also wearing maxed out pvp gear that are in 1400 rated games smashing people.

Pretty discouraging for people trying to climb rating or attempting to get better at their class and they’re getting put against players with double their health.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Anon-dalaran

Oh word? it’s a known fact?

Yeah it’s a “fact” like all your tripe is “fact” except his is more plausible.

[Benmarch-zuljin]

Pretty much yup

[Allibankalt-stormrage]

Guarantee you I go out and pay for a bunch of carried and get fully kitted out I’d still be trash in PvP

[Nuamooa-zuljin]

@Anon-dalaran

I like how guilds can just pay people a huge amounts of gold for tier pieces and funneling to their raiders.

They will pay a lot of money for any advantage in that world first race. It’s nothing new. You should see how it works in China.

@Anon-dalaran

tokens arent pay to win alright.

They are part of a complex pay-to-win dynamic, but I wouldn’t count world first as a significant part of that.

@Anon-dalaran

a raid leader of one of these guilds specifically said they paid 95 mil gold to people just so they can funnel tier pieces to their raiders. and theyre doing the same thing today.

I heard it was more, but we don’t really know how this was working in detail.

If someone on a mythic raid team not expecting to be world first got tier in the first week, and played with this group instead, they are hurting their own team, unless the gold is being funneled back to their guild, which they can do.

How much did players get for skipping their own weekly raid if the piece didn’t drop?

@Allibankalt-stormrage

Guarantee you I go out and pay for a bunch of carried and get fully kitted out I’d still be trash in PvP

Being “trash in PvP” with super gear means you can one shot all the ungeared players. People who bought rating to get gear hang out in bgs and fight in the roads because it’s free wins.

[Krad-moon-guard]

Sure. But the boosting is the issue, wow tokens enables boosting and boosting is extremely toxic in rated pvp.

Also you can be trash at pvp and still smash people when you’re doubling their health and damage lol.

[Shiroo-thrall]

Guys, that’s enough. Don’t feed the troll…

[Piddy-uther (Piddy)]

I want the world first guild pouring a gazillion gold in to pushing everything to the extreme. It makes the chase exciting.

Hearing at one of the recent ones how the entire guild leveled up some profession, only to drop it, to level up another. That takes. It’s the only way to get the mats in time.

But, see, all of the tops guilds have these resources available. The players are willing to pay the price to play the game.

The World First crowd has always been an edge case, and the WF is the only race in the game that 99.999999% of us do not participate in (because we’re not bedpan crazy like the WF crews are).

But it’s fun to watch from a distance.

[Nuamooa-zuljin]

I find issues like the extremes they will go to (have to, basically) to be world first more interesting than the race itself. I’ve never watched, never clicked through to an article on it.

[Allibankalt-stormrage]

@Nuamooa-zuljin

Being “trash in PvP” with super gear means you can one shot all the ungeared players. People who bought rating to get gear hang out in bgs and fight in the roads because it’s free wins.

Thats more of a gear in PvP issue then a p2w

This still doesnt prove anything about the token being p2w. Someone had to get the gear and put it up for sale, someone else had to farm for the gold to put up for the token. There is so much other player involvement that its literally just a good economy.

So far from p2w