Locking stable flying but not skyriding to pathfinder is stupid

[Evilperiod-aggramar]

@Henceforth-area-52

Less than 100 are here complaining about Skyriding, if we exclude the alts posting.

Do you work for Blizzard? Do you know exactly what alts are posting? Did you forget all the disabled people that have chimed in about how it sucks?

Edit - Your hyperbole does not work on me.

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

No matter if someone works 60 hours per week, have a family to raise, or goes to work with fixing ACs they must be really busy.

I am very busy in real life as well but I will say I dedicate a lot of time to the preservation and all might glory of TBC normal flying.

This is because TBC normal flying is the crown jewel of what makes WoW outdoor content great in that you can play extend period of time without feeling burned out or tired. It is like a nice stroll in the park and you are allowed to explore to your hearts content. Not like an amusement park ride where you have to wait in line to ride again and then you go to fast to soak in the experience. And then you are fatigued and can’t do it again.

[Henceforth-area-52]

@Evilperiod-aggramar

Do you work for Blizzard?

You don’t work either so you can’t say it is affecting any relevant amount of people.
I’m just using numbers we can see in the forums.

@Evilperiod-aggramar

Edit - Your hyperbole does not work on me.

Neither does yours:

@Evilperiod-aggramar

all the disabled people that have chimed in about how it sucks

Do you work for Blizzard?

Still 4,6 million subscribers and less than 100 people raiding the forums with their alts to inflate numbers are here complaining about this.

[Antiman-bloodhoof]

@Mafic-emerald-dream

The change is good which is why PF must go.

The change is good, so PF has to change with the times

@Mafic-emerald-dream

PF is no longer suitable for the modern game and never was to be frank!

Quite a few will take flight being decoupled from PF, but PF made into an achievement that awards some kind of cosmetic, like it often awarded a new mount or something… This leaves it in for those that will do it anyway, like me, or those that want the reward.

No reason to cut pathfinder out just because someone can’t see other ways it could work in the modern game.

If Blizzard keeps PF tied to flight however, I am in the group of those that are going to be like: if the leveling content is designed with flight in mind, unlock both DR and steady from the start, if the leveling content is not designed to require flight, lock both behind PF or whatever and develop end game content with flight in mind, like the skyguard/orgir’la rep from BC.

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

@Evilbadguy-malganis

I haven’t read a single post in this thread but they should unlock all flying from the start and remove this garbage pathfinding timegate, let people play the game how they want and don’t dictate how they should.

A lot of us are in agreement at this point.

This is because it is common decency that should be respected. Respecting player time is integral to turn the page from that dark era where PF existed along with rental systems shenanigans.

[Inariusz-dragonmaw]

Dragonflight pathfinder still required? You say? When TWW prepatch launched and went live that is NO LONGER the case! So get your facts straight.

[Lovelight-sargeras (Lovelight)]

@Baewolf-malfurion

Bogus! I much prefer slow precise flying. Dragonflight is only good for point a to point b fast flight. I’ve played wow since original release, my son and daughter too. We all prefer slow flying. We Represent The Base, along with millions more.

I don’t think I’ve seen a single person using steady flight in any of the three prepatch memories event areas.

[Antiman-bloodhoof]

Likely because it takes the speed of DR to get to the locations in time to get credit for them, or at least people think it does.

[Lovelight-sargeras (Lovelight)]

I don’t think so. The objectives aren’t over in seconds. This is a non issue.

[Antiman-bloodhoof]

Hence my

@Antiman-bloodhoof

or at least people think it does.

Perception tends to over power reality for some,. and with the time to switch, most likely just use what they go in with.

[Lovelight-sargeras (Lovelight)]

I suppose that is possible to think that way for this event, but I doubt it is a prevalent mindset. You play it for a cycle or two and it becomes clear that 420% steady flight speed is more than sufficient to get around.

I think that’s the new buffed speed anyway. Something like that.

[Tékota-zuljin (Tékota)]

@Jarnock-moon-guard

NoClip flying completely trivializes a lot of questing content, to the point where druids can literally just hover around and loot quest items without ever landing or interacting with enemies.

Yeah cause we can just kill mobs in flight form, right? Moron. You people lost this fight in WoD, you lost it again in DF.

[Emanu-dalaran]

That’s fine, but it IS the same. The exact same setup. SR early, regular flight later, only this time, later, isn’t 3 or 4 patches away.

It’s at the end of the campaign/exploration

[Tiffany-ravencrest]

@Nayaga-lightbringer

And my point is, neither do you

That has been my point as well all along.

• Just because you have an opinion, that doesn’t mean everyone else has that same opinion.
• I never claimed that my opinion was other people’s opinion.

However there are a lot of people who make claims about what they don’t like about the game and say things like “the players don’t like this” or “the devs are not listening”.

The implication is that those people believe their opinion is everyone else’s opinion when it is not.

No where am I doing the same thing. Nowhere am I speak for anyone but myself.

[Ermal-the-scryers]

It has been, and remains to be, a pretty nasty FU to Druids. At least our form can skyride now.

Personally, I’d like to see the option to flight toggle on each mount separately.

[Jarnock-moon-guard]

@Tékota-zuljin

You people lost this fight in WoD, you lost it again in DF.

How did anybody “lose” it in Dragonflight?

TWW pathfinder is the easiest thing ever. Just finish the quests and explore one time ever and you can use steady flight as much as you want forever on all of your alts.

It’s literally only asking you to play through one time without it. That’s really not that serious.

[Nayaga-lightbringer (Nayaga)]

Then don’t makes statements like this:

@Tiffany-ravencrest

people like dragon riding and the people saying they want the old type of riding don’t represent the player base.

You don’t know what the base wants. Don’t be a hypocrite.

[Tékota-zuljin (Tékota)]

@Jarnock-moon-guard

TWW pathfinder is the easiest thing ever.

You just answered your own question.

[Antiman-bloodhoof]

That is assuming he is anti-flight period. The ones that were anti-flight period did indeed lose the fight in WoD and DF. But if he is not such, or is like pro-flight but pro pathfinder, or at least in the TWW form, how did he lose?

[Cherri-pagle]

Just adding another drop in the bucket that the cast time is unnecessary. Why make it so anti player?? Still hoping it gets changed.