Or just switch it with the toggle spell they gave you options
Agreed.
They lose the narrative and they canât let it go due to pure ego. As a result they are now spilling over that bias into all other aspects of design like the toggle switching.
That is why removing PF from TBC normal flying in TWW is a must IMVHO.
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Huh? I played DF for about 2 weeks total to do story and played a good bit of Remix. I learned very quickly how to effectively use Dragonriding.
Once you have enough glyphs to make your vigor recharge quickly while moving quickly, itâs easy to fly nearly indefinitely. You just use ability that pushes you upward while aiming upwards. Then once youâre done or out of Vigor, you keep the upwards direction until just before you would start slowing down. Tilt back down but only just enough so youâre keeping up speed but arenât aimed down far. Then when a vigor recharges, aim upwards again as you press the ability. If done right, you gain more height than you lose recharging.
I still havenât unlocked Static flight in DF as I saw no reason to. I got every glyph using Dragonriding.
If someone is doing that, they donât want to be engaged. They want to speed through the content.
Nothing is forcing you to use Skyriding constantly. I personally never used Dragonriding while doing the DF story. Only if the objective ended up taking me somewhere I had to use it, or I was near a glyph or something where flying was needed. Maybe Iâm in the minority but I enjoy using my ground mounts and running everywhere at first. Iâm not in a rush to reach max level though.
As my favorite book series says:
Life before Death.
Strength before Weakness.
Journey before Destination.
For me, no itâs not that. Itâs Dragonriding crammed down my throat instead of normal flying.
Itâs kind of quirky, kind of cool, kind of fun in the races, but when I just want to sit down for the ~30 minutes of free time I have to play the game? I want to actually play the game and not have to fight with this method of travel, wait for recharge, etc. etc.
Lock them both, or not at all, but they made this expansion require flying and so we donât have a choice but to use this system, and then they tout those numbers as some kind of success.
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The Burning Crusade is where flying was added and not until you level capped were you able to train to fly and buy a mount.
In Wrath, once you level capped, again you had access to flying and alts could get flying early but only after your 1st char gained it.
In Panda, once level capped, you gained flight.
In WoD pathfinder was added which significantly slowed down flight access even though you gained level cap and pathfinder has been in every expansion since then.
Except in last expansion where dragon flight was introduced and freely given away but still locked normal flight behind pathfinder. And now in TWW, dragon flight access has been further reduced so you gain it at level 10 but still cannot get normal flight until pathfinder is complete. That is completely unacceptable.
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indeed pathfinder needs to go, and they need to get over this no flying crap.
they need stop trying to force a flight style(or no flying) on players.
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It is not acceptable and this is why feedback matters.
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Blizzard doesnât care. Enough people are willing to continue to pay for their product for them to make a profit, and that is all that matters.
I canât use that twiddletastic flight mode and my husband despises it. His account is dead and the software is no longer installed on his system. My account ends in Jan and I do not plan to purchase TWW or its successors so long as twiddleflight is favored over the real flight.
But most folks here do not seem to care who they hurt so long as they can go fast and do so without any future interruptions in the ability to fly by their preferred method.
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Sorry to hear that but yes feedback is important. I remember you mentioned that you bought a sub package a while ago and you were regretting that decision.
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i agree Skyriding should be unlocked with pathfinder and normal flying should be open day one
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⊠and so forth.
Yes I know, and with each of those releases the quests were balanced knowing whether or not there would be flying. In Northend were there is flying on day one, there is more back and forth one quest at a time. In Duskwood where thatâs not the case you grab a bunch of quests, go on the ground to do them, then return. Either that or the quest giver is right there near by.
In any case, itâs their call as to which way they want to go and it is part of the challenge of the game.
iâm not sure about âstupidââŠ
but it surely is âuninformedââŠ
maybe our august developers
should play the gameâŠ
then theyâd know what works
and what doesnât work!
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I havenât played the beta, but people are reporting that you can complete the entire campaign using ground mounts. For the few âflyingâ quests, there is an option to have the game fly for you.
Someone even said they purposefully leveled a character only on the ground so they could send bug reports or feedback on any issues that would arise specifically for people who cannot use dragon riding.
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- Youâre not being forced to use dragon riding.
- Blizzard listened to feedback and is allowing steady flight significantly sooner than at any point in the past 10 years.
- TWW does not require flying. You do have a choice to not use dragon riding.
These inaccurate hyperbolic statements are not helping.
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While true for most classes not for Druids back in TBC they got to fly at level 68âŠnope Lich King we could fly at level 78 with cold weather flyingâŠtrue on MoPâŠand your rightâŠPathfinder needs to be gone for good.
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I mean⊠We have proof it literally didnât, considering players were so terrible in Vanilla that those same raids took literal sub-minute boss fights to clear in classic when people were not bad at the game.
At this point it must be. Pathfinder now is to complete the leveling questline. Itâs no different from TBC, Wrath, or MoP where you needed to level to max, except now it is account wide and no gold sink.
Still incorrect.
Blizzard has stated they dislike flying as it enables people to avoid interacting with content. Skyriding is dynamic and requires you to interact with the game, so it avoids that issue. You cannot claim the treatment is inconsistent between two very different things as a gotcha moment, they are fundamentally not the same and are not treated as such.
You should stop trying to use people having disabilities as a weapon to try to put other people down and pretending to have moral high ground.
True! Wait, they doesnât work here, youâd be using we if you were talking about the people screaming ableism because they canât use steady flight out of the gate like has happened in 9 of 10 expansions, despite it having the lowest bar of them all now.
No, it is perfectly fine to have steady flight locked behind a separate (extremely minor) requirement because it is a different system. One requires engagement with the game, one does not.
Can I have you guysâ gold? Thanks.
Get over yourself, having the easiest steady flight unlock ever, possibly excluding cataclysm, is not hurting people.
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That waiting for a year was stupid. You donât gain anything by being forced to ride on the ground the whole time. I remember having played BfA for a year, doing World Quests on multiple toons, having played 2 full seasons.
Then after unlocking Pathfinder I remember flying from Boralus to Mechagon Isle and seeing the huge waterfalls that comes down the mountain range that separates Boralus and Stormsong Valley. I was amazed how cool that looks⊠and had to wait a year to see that and other pretty things in the world you can only see when flying.
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No argument here, I was often, if not always, among those that said "break pathfinder up along content lines, like part 1 for release content, part 2 for either max level end game (so Suramar in Lagion) or content released in the patch (using Legion again, this would be say the Broken Shore).
The big difference here is that TBCâs flying was locked behind content that could be completed with a ground mount.
Thatâs the important part. You didnât need to fly to do the stuff that was unlocked with flight.
TWW is being designed with flying in mind from the ground up. Thatâs why dragonflying is allowed from the beginning. That means thereâs places where, if you canât dragonfly because it makes you sick, youâll be stuck.
That is the reason people are complaining. If normal flight is blocked until insert arbitrary criteria are met, so should dragonflight, simply because if you take it any other way, you get content that you canât complete without flying that is required to unlock flying. Because the people who are complaining canât dragonfly. Which means they canât do quests which require it either.
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