Wrong this thread is on the front page of General.
This is not accurate several countries now have compelled speech laws.
Even in the US parents have lost their children to CPP due to speech.
You need to inform yourself.
Wrong to you again, yes this was in GD then people like you brought it to this thread so stop playing ignorant already.
If youâre going to quote do it right lmao
I said my commuinity doesnât go out of their way to make laws that accept hate crimes and encourage laws that control other peopleâs bodies. When yours stops hate crimes twards in under the guise of religion then we talk.
What hate crime laws are allowed and where?
I was asleep.
I am not in the mood for this rn. Just go do something productive.
Breakfast time.
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I bagelâd today. First time in forever, cream cheese on an Everything.
Oh thatâs always a good choice, especially strawberry cream cheese.
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Got laundry done today, including cleaning the bed sheets and pillow cases. Swept the room, and also did a HIIT. I think itâs been a pretty alright day, but now Iâm wondering if I should eat some fruit and bran before or just wait till the morning hmm
Oh yeah I should do that at some point the cleaning of sheets / pillow cases. I havenât done that in a long time.
To preface, take this as insulting and as hateful as you like ; it is in my vested interest for HUMANS to be as together and non toxic to eachother as possible. I am just a dude who doesnât give two craps who you bang and who you donât. I am here for the big picture.
I know this thread is going to invite toxicity. I just hope that debate and talk doesnât get lumped in with that.
Letâs talk strategy wise, to help eliminate and insulate the LGBTQ community from being considered different, weird, shovy-down throat, isnât it best to stop separating LGBTQ from humans, as a group? This sounds weird, iâm trying to crystalize it into writing.
The more and more that people, in and out of that community separate themselves from the rest by labeling themselves under an umbrella of group identity, it actually widens the gap further in my opinion. I think the best way for this to stop being political is to, stop making it political. Exist, side by side as if your label is âHumanâ not LGBTQ. There are people who sincerely do not like gay people, this is true. In my experience though, and the experience of most I feel, itâs not what you like in your nether-regions, itâs how you go about it. I do NOT mean dress, talk. I mean considering yourself, in essence as a separate group. Walling yourselves off, which i know started as a defense mechanism but slowly I feel degenerated into a walled off trench, on both sides.
I think this thread does more harm than good to the LGBTQ community. itâs time to stop considering yourselves as a group, and more as just individuals who are just like other individuals. Itâs the argument that the bad guy from Incredibles made. âIf everyone is special, nobody is.â the more and more you separate yourselves based off of a minor character trait like what gender you love, warranted or not, the more itâs going to be attacked. You were a target to begin with I know. I know. But thatâs always what happens when a new group crops up. People hate change. Donât âConform.â not what iâm saying. I am saying, just exist. Fall into it. Realize how little people give a crap, because the more you psych yourselves up in your minds that people hate you for your group, which some do, MOST donât. Those who matter donât.
I sincerely hope that this isnât taken as phobic or something. I do not, I repeat, do not care what you like to tuck n suck and look and talk. I want you to exist finally, together.
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Ye I wanted to do it a few weeks ago but then itâs been raining almost everyday. It always feels like when I wanna do laundry it will rain 
Also whenever I have cleaning days like these, I also turn on my diffuser. It kinda feels like a nice cleansing day.
Itâs perfectly fine to have your opinion on the matter, and I hope that you wonât get reported either.
I disagree with you though because while that ideal would be nice, we are very far from that reality. If you were around the forums during DFâs launch, youâd know that there were a bunch of anti-LGBTQ+ threads starting every other day or so. Some of the things people say in those threads really put anyone who has been shady in this thread to shame.
And if you were around back in 2019/2020, it was the exact same scenario. Anyone who made a LGBTQ+ related thread were attacked. So much so that even bad-faith trolls started acting like they were part of this community to bait people. Some of us have been fighting those trolls for almost 2 years now because of how troubling the situation was. Some members of this community quit and had some mental health struggles as a result as well.
The situation is bad, and this thread is simply a place where people can gather and make friends and talk about all sorts of stuff, including gay characters and so without being attacked for it.
Also, I feel like the people who use that line of argument of âwell if you truly want to be included, then join us,â donât really understand what itâs like to live your life having to censor yourself 24/7. If Iâm around the ânormâ I basically have to present myself a certain way to avoid making people feel uncomfortable. I mean I canât speak for everyone, especially for my trans friends because theyâve had it the worse on these forums, but having a community like this feels quite comfortable. I get to socialize in a way where I donât have to be worried about making drag race references, or can talk about gay stuff without worrying that I might offend or make someone feel uncomfortable.
I feel like the thread is effective because people can really just mute the thread if this community offends them. Some of us try to stick by the unspoken contract that since we have this megathread, we wonât start threads about these matters. But ofc thereâs still trolls around and the regulars here canât represent or speak for every single person in the LGBTQ+ community.
I also do feel bad for the people who genuinely want to make other forms of communities but are censored. For those people, I will fully support them. But I do not feel bad for those who try to minimize us or go about a very manipulative tactic to try to get us cancelled. This was the best middle-ground we could achieve, but there are people who simply refuse to accept it and seem to have made it their life mission to dismantle this community.
So Iâd rather those people spend some time to reflect what about this community is so evil and malicious that they feel the need to do such things. This is a space where everyone can come in and post about silly stuff, share music, and talk about gay, lesbian, trans, characters, issues, or whatever. And I feel like if people really do want things to be equal then theyâd join in on the fun instead of constantly making us have to defend ourselves.
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Remember, friends you can always set folk to ignore. Donât feed trolls!
Those who donât want to see the thread you can always mute the entire thing!
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Got a perfect relic on a difficult level that I wasnât even planning to perfect in crash 4
Eugh Iâm gonna go throw up from the stress lol
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I do understand that the experience and history that is attributed to people posting threads like this one, trying to create community spaces for your group. This can be pure ignorance so forgive me, but I feel like a majority of homosexuals and otherwise in the LBBTQ donât go on the forums. They donât consider themselves or attribute their identity to whether or not they receive hate or not. Iâm NOT saying âthe true LGBTQ withstand hate.â I am saying that, they donât associate with it. They donât base their decisions, or posts or experiences off of that negative, but only off of the positive. If none of that fake, misguided and usually just lack of thought hate was there, neither would this thread. Youâd just exist with everyone. Straights, gays, everything in between. There are short and tall. Bald and hairy, gay and not. Facts of life that just are. that not only just are but donât effect jack for anyone, and if it does, those people live in the past, like the uber past and are few and far between. Your little ragers on here arenât truly your enemies, they just think they are like a kid hates a break in a pattern.
You said something about not knowing how it is to live your life having to censor yourself. Iâll come out with something: I was raised a Muslim. Not hardcore muslims, just immigrants who came from Beirut and live in the U.S. I went through life following my parents faith out of respect and duty until I grew of age, had a convo with them. I told them, I canât lie to myself. I canât falsely believe in god and participate in ramadan, prayer, etc, but I told them that when I had already become a man. The rest of my life, I was obedient, for THEM. To keep them happy, and peaceful. I know the tip-toe life.
What I mean to say basically is this: this thread is effective, sure. In the short term. Itâs a hangout place for people who historically and currently are ostracized and thatâs awesome. I just, I want to fix problems at the root. Why do I have this feeling in my heart, that a very same person who replies to an LGBTQ thread with toxic rambling, if you talked to them, in voice or in person, mentioned youâre X, Y, or Z and theyâd be like âoh, wordâ and move on? I feel like forums and text themselves drastically amp up peopleâs opinions to extremes, clouding the truth. I think this is just hopeium though that true, homophobic and otherwise rage has a whole lot else in between the lines other than âYou kiss men?â (i know iâm simplifying)
The ball is in the court of the toxic. Not in yours to meld with the majority, I know this. However, considering the majority, especially on forums, are imbeciles, maybe for pure strategy, for simple long term peace of mind, you go the extra mile to do it for them. This is like when a big brother takes the hit for his much dumber, little brother.
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Itâs ultimately up to those who are coming into threads like this, or making others outside of it, and filling them with argument and detraction - and even outright hate - to make that call, or for Blizzard to step up and address it long-term. It is not on this community to do so, and going the extra mile for them in the past has not worked.
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This is Blizzardâs private forum. âFree speechâ as defined by the first amendment does not apply here.
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i have been known to like cats from time to time 
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LGBT were not the people who separated themselves. Itâs the people who for centuries attacked LGBT and continue to do so today that came up with the labels.
For example, take people with green eyes. Do you see them forming a group? No you donât. Why? Because no one is attacking people with green eyes, discriminating against them, insulting them or calling them names.
If they were the object of such hate and discrimination you can bet they would unite and form a Green Eye group to fight for their rights. And you can bet that the people who attacked them in the first place would point to them and say they were the ones separating themselves from others.
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You will never understand because you never faced an actual discrimination.
I agree with the sentiment of this post, but just want to point out a technicality I guess.
The first amendment also covers the freedom of association, so as this is their private forum, Blizz does have the first amendment right to not want to associate with people who say things that go against the rules they set up.
Also I find it amusing in a way how many so called âfirst amendment absolutistsâ hate that freedom and basically act like freedom of speech is their right to say whatever noise they want to spew without anyone else having the right to react to that if they donât agree.
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