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They feature in many quests in zones. Yeah this isnāt a dating sim nor would I want it to be, but people are constantly asking for help saving their wife, avenging their opposite sex love interest, and I think there have been some quests where you try to help someone woo another person.
None of these quests would be different at all if they were same sex partners. Your questing experience would be the same, but some of us would get to see ourselves.
Thereās a big difference between belonging and being forced to conform. If we arenāt standing out because we are afraid to look different then thatās bad. Holding hands with my boyfriend (I am male) and having no one react is not invisible. It is being accepted as normal because the definition of normal is big enough to include other kinds of love.
Being invisible because I am afraid to hold his hand and thus weāre just two dudes hanginā out is bad because we look normal because we have no other choice.
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what youāll know tomorrow.
Same. Iām 100% into the opposite sexā¦ plus I donāt share. 1+1=yay. 1+1+x = have fun with that, Iām out. 20k+20k+20k+20k= nope nope nope nope nopeā¦
Not everything has to have representation of anything . Why cant a game just be a game or a movie a movie . Problem is society we need some sort of validation to make us feel like we enjoyed it. Not all of us . Like currently Iām playing death stranding, I do not feel it needs any inclusion of anything . I also play Dreams , there are a lot of people that create art and media in there. Iām sure there is LGBTQ content created however itās not specially added to the game. If you like wow great enjoy my for what it is escape from the mundane. If you need validation in everything you watch are do you have issues far beyond this game.
Honesty this is why I hate movements and never get involved they preach inclusion , up until they feel they can exclude. Also they feel there political stance should be in your face 24 7.
I mean with that response then why does it need all the non lgbt relationships? Because itās story telling. It helps make the world feel relatable and therefore you get more into the rp side of it.
I know Iām a broken record but simply existing is not a political stance.
Actually I can answer some of that a lot of the story arcs for the main people like savannas and garnish stems from the warcraft 1,2,3 roc and tft. Not to mention the books as well. Without context you may not understand why they di what they do or you may want to see the conclusion .
Warcraft one and two came out in the 90s along with 3 in early 2k. Then came the extension wow . However the lore etc was largely written before lgbtq was more accepted and mainstream media.
I think it crosses over from existing when its a constant push for representation in everything. Itās not feasible for anyone to represent every single group so who do they choose? Why is your group more important then another? I think itās best for people who need that representation to simply play where that representation is at. Just an a opinion though.
I mean non lgbt seem rather gluttonous with their own representation in media. Heck that new mulan movie took out Sheng just because he was super coded as bisexual in the animation
Iām not saying lgbt are more important. Having stories on the same level as the non lgbt makes it equality.
Trust me lgbt get hype over basically any representation regardless if itās gay dudes, women, bi or trans.
Look Iām not trying to exclude anyone tbh most LGBTQ people dont even recognize us people that do not believe in labels. Where we feel love is love and you love the person not there gender
Itās easier for a content creator to create what they know about. I think that is the reason for that. However that represnation does exist it just not as big here in WoW. reading threw this thread I would think no game has any LGBT representation at all.
Sure. I consider the Fake News Empire that benefits monetarily through pushing and perpetuating this narrative of āSJWs gone mad! Click for moreā to be my actual enemy, rather than any individual person with disagreeable beliefs. I think that tackling Fake News, generally speaking, has the potential to greatly benefit our society.
Well to be fair, saying āfake newsā like saying āwet waterā. News networks vary in how bad they are, generally that variation correlates with how much money they are taking in, but they are all at best deceptive and at worse liars. News companies are still companies, they run on profits. What drives profits? Conflict, tragedy, anger, fearā¦ People are more likely to click on and share articles invoke emotion, and the more emotion the better. Which is also why when their profits are hitting the toilet their writing becomes more sensational. A lot of people donāt like reporters because they are like vultures flocking to tragedy to exploit it for money.
Well, thereās a distinction between me caring about their feelings and me caring about their wellbeing. People are (broadly speaking) dumb and LGBT+ folk are people. Do the math and there are some LGBT+ people saying really dumb stuff out there. Itās part of being human, yāknow?
I need to not care about their feelings because thatās an important part of filtering out bad ideas. If I didnāt put aside their feelings, any time I questioned a bad idea someone would get upset at me and Iād wind up having to cave to them. And if I went around supporting bad ideas that I wasnāt capable of backing up using hard logic, that would ultimately make it harder for me to advocate for people I care about.
Iām more than happy to have a heart to heart with people outside the context of critical thought and discussions, but feelings have such a high potential to be disruptive to any given debate that Iād be sabotaging myself if I didnāt put them aside when it came time to think critically and argue.
I completely get what you are saying. Most people youāll encounter are dumb, unknowledgeable, ect. Not everyone is going to be right no matter how much they think they are. The best way to make decisions IS to put emotion aside, as you said. Emotions are more helpful in identifying problems, not so much at fixing them.
The best way to navigate is to listen to what others have to say, even those that you donāt necessarily agree with, because without that you are only getting half the picture to make an informed judgement on. And never be too arrogant to occasionally question your owns views as well. No one is always right about everything, not even you.
Nonsense Iāve written plenty of non lgbt characters.
I said easier, not impossible. Itās also a little different for non LGBT people to write about LGBT there is a lot of pressure to get it right. A misstep may be judged hashly and have consequences.
Thatās only if they pull a Bury Your Gays. That is the one trope that is universally hated in the lgbt
You just made me think of Monty python . Bring out your dead .
I know it seems like I am against it all but I am not. I just think itās a content creators right to choose. It is their body of work and should have a say to what happens to it. That said if you ever watched the newish Netflix anime Cagister of a Insect cage Iād totally want to see a Innkeeper like Mario in WoW. Wacky persona and all.