LGBT+ History Month

Speak for yourself.

Yes. When media has no LGBT representation, it alienates LGBT people. Alienation is a negative influence on someone’s mental health. Therefore, well-written representation is in fact beneficial to human wellbeing and happiness. Welcome to nuance.

If you were concerned with freedom of expression, you wouldn’t be in this thread heckling people for freely expressing their desire to be represented in this game. You have advocated for nothing of the sort in this thread. As far as I’m concerned, this is virtue signalling.

WoW is a game encompassing an entire world. LGBT representation would not only not be token, but it would be unrealistic not to have it. It makes zero sense to have an entire world full of human-like races and no LGBT representation at all.

You’re literally just vomiting up anti-LGBT cliches right now. Welcome to not having an argument.

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Only if you people could make a 1.7k post about pvp vendors instead of coming here to flex your philosophy degrees

But I don’t play PVP! I’m a nerd! And if I wasn’t a nerd, I wouldn’t have a philosophy degree to flex! :sob:

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Well there is no shortage of representation in media. It may not be as represented as heterosexual couples, but it is there. And it is to be expected that representation is slanted more towards heterosexual couples as they still make up the majority of the population. Though I still think you are trying to make a giant leap to explain why representation matters so much in a videogame when there are so many other causes that seem like they would be more beneficial.

As I said, giving ones opinion isn’t harassment. When you make a public post you are opening discussion with anyone that wants to make dialogue. You don’t get to decide who responds to you or the opinion they express. And to say expressing my opinion is proof Im not concerned with freedom of expression… what? You can think what you want, I really don’t care. Clearly because you think it doesn’t make it fact.

Agree to some extent. I really wouldn’t care if they added an LGBT
character. My personal belief is that the world is big enough. If Blizzard wanted to they can. Would I boo it? No. I wouldn’t cheer it either. I don’t care cause cosmetic symbols are pointless and blizzard can do what they want.

Im sorry rehashing actual feelings made by people both in and outside of this thread is anti-LGBT clichés. Maybe if you cared about the feelings
of people outside your camp you wouldn’t treat them like garbage.

But it’s 3am. If you want to make any more arguments about how you are high and mighty I will address them in the morning.

You keep fighting the good fight for those things that actually matter in life, Super Girl, or Super Person, whichever you prefer. Have a good night.

Arguing on forums is the one true form of pvp.

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I do miss pvp vendors. I also wouldnt mind some gay couple or pairing. We can want more than one thing : ).

Anyway I hope to see some dead gays during my questing. Not in a bad way… it’s just the shadowlands xD. Ahh… watching too much chilling adventures of Sabrina and there morbid humor is rubbing off.

I also hope to see Mankrik’s wife #straightrepresentation

“Rumor has it, that she is dead. Sorry.”

Um shadowlands…

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“Possibly.”

if it was to be added it would have to be because blizzard has context to add it , as like I said before I believe in creative freedom, as far as editing existing lore to include LGBTQ + absolutely not. It would have to be a new character as a lot of the lore and current protagnests have story arcs etc that go back to Warcraft 1,2, and 3 ROC and TFT. Example: You would not or could not change Arthis to be LGBTQ + as his story arc is already written in lore and a few games, same with a lot of the world leaders in wow. But in all honesty it is a game, not exactly sure how you would translate LGBTQ + into it, if it’s as someone previous said just simple hand holding , that is fine , but people may want it more in your face. I am all for being inclusive however if there is no real frame of context to add it, or even if blizzard does not want to add it. We should respect there creative freedom to add or to exclude any type of romance in game.

Art is Art, and we cannot tell them how to direct there medium especially if they cannot add it contextually and make it make sense in lore.

“Exactly.”

“And if they need a bit more, those two Goblin Gals could pop up, and get married on Valentine’s Day, then Valentine’s Day could have a small Anniversary thing, for them, each year. That could be done easily too.”

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Believe it or not, I can simultaneously support a very good cause and a much smaller good cause like this.

It would be nice if I could suggest that people not say or do something without having to deal with them putting themselves up on the cross and pretending their frozen peaches are under attack.

“Look mate, you know who has a lot of feelings? Blokes that bludgeon their wife to death with a golf trophy.” – Mr. Mundy

I don’t care about the feelings of people in my camp either. At least, not within the context of a serious discussion. Feelings have a nasty tendency to blind people to the truth. If you want me to be nice to you, you should stop debating me and try being my friend instead.

Thank you. And Super Girl will do just fine~ Have a good one.

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But what do we take a pool on what or how it is added? Cause I have a feeling some people want it in your face look at us are we not special …

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There just isn’t any way to do so without making it seem absolutely forced. I would prefer they write things organically, and not follow the diminished writings of everything Disney (Star Wars, Marvel, even some of their own stuff).

When people start telling the writers what to do, and they actually listen, that means they start writing your story, and not their own. And how do they know what you want? No, if you want change, you make change, you don’t ask for it. You want more of something in a game, don’t retract from someone else’s art, make your own.

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“I think an in mail invite to the Gal’s Wedding, and a Yearly Wedding March to celebrate it, would be enough. You can always turn down the invite if you are not interested.”

“My main point is, why create a new one, or revamp an old established one, when there are already a few in game they could just expand on?”

“Come to think of it, what ever became of Johnny Awesome?”
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“straight white male” people were using it as a slur to diminish or disavow what another person was trying to say . That was the point I was trying to make, sorry I should have wrote the context better.

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Thing is it is actually legal in some countries. As bad as it seems , that is why I said where do we draw the line? Once everything starts to be included we cant just arbitrarily pick and choose.

I mean I’ve had moments in making up stories where I listened to ideas from friends and had “DUDE THAT WAS WAY BETTER THAN WHAT I HAD CAN I USE THAT?” moments

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You both make good points, honestly this would be so much easier if the world did not run on labels, it really sometimes is hard for me to reply , not because I cannot articulate what I want to say. It is more to the point I do not see the world in labels , or male , female so on so forth, there is me there is you . Like my partner I love them to death, it would not matter to me what they are and it doesn’t matter. ( you can feel free to think what you want.) , but I love them for who they are not if they are a guy or a girl . Honestly that doesn’t matter.

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We certainly can. Only give representation to relationships that involve consenting parties. Animals can’t consent, children can’t consent.

Polyamory and Polygamy are really non-issues, as long as everyone is a consenting adult.

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