I have come to the conclusion that your experience was the intent of the designers, who are apparently prepping new players to expect to have to pay large amounts of gold to geared players who serve as middlemen. It’s great design for those who are in on the grift, and a horrible experience for those at the receiving end of what feels like nothing but a scam. You can see which are which by reading the responses to your post, OP.
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LFR may be raiding, but it is different.
There’s a major difference between a coordinated group of guildmates working together to clear the raid, and a group of pugs randomly thrown together by an algorithm. In normal and above, the raid leader sets rules, people abide by them or get gkicked or whatever. In LFR, no one sets rules and if someone violates them, who cares, they leave the group and are never seen again by the other 24 people.
If it was personal loot you wouldn’t have won it. At least now you have the chance to use gold to get the gear you want and you can always decline the offer. I don’t see the problem here.
I’m sure if blizzard support and auction LFR you’d get a lot more players joining.
I’d be queueing up as a tank+healer if I knew that when loot dropped it got auctioned off and the gold was split between everyone.
OP, the bad news is that this forum IS the room of people that want to sell you the piece of crap for 5k.
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You have no way of knowing this. A player can roll on multiple items from the same boss and win them all, even duplicates, neither of which can happen with personal loot.
Where large amounts of gold is traded, RMT also happens.
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This is true…
Everyone rolling need when an item drops is the same as personal loot. Just personal loot’s roll isn’t on display.
Yet another way to promote token sales, so Blizz won’t do anything about it. If they keep allowing people to sell gear they win for larger and larger amounts of gold, people will buy more tokens to make sure they can afford it. It’s win-win for Blizz.
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Nope. A player can win every item off a boss. Even though you are pretending this could have happened with personal loot, it could never have. No one ever got every item off a boss with personal loot. How stupid do you think we are?
Actually it’s a short term win for Blizzard. But it’s going to turn off a lot of non-raiders from ever considering raiding with those who clearly have no moral compass.
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You’re getting upset over a very minor difference and extremely rare case.
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No, I’m not. It’s common that people see one player get multiple pieces of loot off the same boss. It’s also common that entitled grifters hold gear for ransom that they only rolled on to squeeze money out of those they see as undeserving of gear. I’m amazed at how hard you are working to fabricate justifications that this has always been the case. I mean, you did say that it was exactly the same in personal loot, when it clearly wasn’t. That was an outright lie.
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It’s their loot. 
Stop feeling entitled to it.
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Should be a bannable offense in lfr. I don’t see how letting stuff like that slide is good for the game since it just encourages people to avoid playing with others in the queue mode more then usual. They didn’t have to roll need on loot they didn’t need, and I count mog as need as far as lfr is concerned. But taking gear to extort gold is unbecoming and should be discouraged.
That said enforcement of such a thing could easily be as bad as the situation if blizzard keeps being lazy and cheap about enforcing their rules. But that people do this and think its ok because its randos on the internet shows just how far social fabric of wow has fallen.
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Some probably. But there are also people who are simply trying to point out the fact that the same thing existed in previous loot systems and blaming group loot is misplaced. In fact, group loot does more to protect against this than personal loot did.
Being able to win multiple pieces is new with group loot, without a doubt. But this was offset some by the protections against people rolling need on items they already have in group loot. But nothing prevented players from doing this behavior under personal loot.
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What you propose they do? Trading is required in organized raiding where trading for pots, flasks, what have ya is a necessity. People needing on stuff that they’ll sell is an unfortunate consequence. You can just not buy it, you lost anyway. Remove the ability to trade and that thing is gone.
Well the only thing to really do is not buy it on principal and ridicule them. I hope they enjoy the 100 gold.
It became a thing earlier this year when Blizz opened up full trading options to anyone. You can now trade gold cross server.
So now instead of giving items away for free, people now charge for it. 5k isn’t much anyway. Not for a raid piece anyway.
I know they’re not the same people proclaiming this but I find it hilarious that players here are saying they’re fine paying 5k+ per characters per expansion to be able to fly, but are up in arms when someone tries to sell them gear for that price. And really I’m surprised nobody tried to claim WoW is pay to win because of cross realm trading.
OP… just pug normal. It’s super easy and has real gear.
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Op should have told that person to shove the gear where the sun doesn’t shine. People like that are trash.
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