LFR is not getting removed. Get over it already

Thats the reason i dont trust online reviews. Never know what the criteria is or if theyre literally deleting reviews to skew the results.

Is it though?

You must be fun at parties. Also you don’t know me but feel free to conpletely judge me just because I think LFR is bad for World of Warcraft lol.

How so? Because I think LFR is bad for the long term health of the game? You keep attacking my character like it has any basis in this discussion when I haven’t said anything remotely rude. I think you are the one who is the jerk here.

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Sigh lol, just google it then, there are loads of sites reporting on DFO’s revenue. The game makes a ton of money.

Meh you lost me at DFO earlier, I just don’t see it’s relevance to why so many want LFR to be gone. Good luck with your crusade though!

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I think you want to check the source of those footnotes.

[37] Worldwide digital games market: March 2018. SuperData Research . April 26, 2018.

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Glorp brek shnark
Probably makes as much sense as this exchange at this point.

not as much since i stopped drinking.
is that what this game requires to make sense of some arguments? Substance abuse?

Thats fine. I honestly dont care about the opinion.
Just dont expect to offer it up and get no responses to counter it if youre then providing some arguments as to why it needs to be removed.
Your opinion doesnt affect OUR game.
Lfr being removed would.

Because we tell you all that WE DONT want to join your guilds or use LFG. WE want to use LFR. but you cant just RESPECT that response and quite often many in here start calling names like …

" wow had its most subs without this casual garbage in it"

"to buy from the store an you would still be a garbage player "

" Even garbage players can find a heroic if they’re persistent enough"

“Its not a garbage system, it has garbage players running it more than legion did making people think its garbage because its too hard for them”

" and now they are left with a lot of garbage players that think they are good."

" so I don’t understand your logic. You want to speak and look at the garbage player"

And that’s okay. On my realm there’s plenty of raids that advertise in Trade Chat and the LFG channel.

You can look at their earnings reports too. Of course the company’s own reports might not be enough for you.

And if they get rejected by those too?

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Keep looking. I’m not sure why anyone would be rejected outside of…

A. Bad reputation
B. Not the class they were looking for
C. Not the role they were looking for

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Gaz was saying WoW was in bad shape financially. I mentioned the Superdata report that showed it was #4 and #6 the last 2 months in revenue. My source was being questioned, because you know it is the WoW GD forums. I guess Superdata a division of Neilsen is not a more reputable source than how many Twitch viewers a game has.

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D. Not being their friend/having them as connections
E. They simply don’t like their name or tone or whatever.
F. They’re not part of the “cool kids club”

A is a legitimate reason and an understandable one, but as far as B and C goes it would still suck. So I should be screwed if I chose to play a certain class and spec?

Nah Id take that as a source, mind you I would wonder where they got the data, but still more legitimate than wiki or reddit.

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Are any of those quotes mine?

I will freely call LFR garbage, say that it promotes apathy, poor play, laziness, and dissuades people from building lasting social bonds.

You will never see me call the people thay partake in LFR names though. There is a big difference.

As far as this:

Make your own guild then? Find some like minded individuals you can play games with and have a blast.

Thats the basis of the entire argument. LFR prevents people from being giving that little nudge that could lead to lasting and real friendships, which is what leads to long term player retention.

You can argue til you are blue in the face I doubt you will change my mind.

Just remember before you decide to play the victim card it was YOU who attacked my character and insulted my personality, not the other way around.

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You can read their site on how they get their data. A lot of companies use them, I mean A LOT!

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And when those who struggle are asking for help, folks would rather scorn and ignore them.

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hmmmm…what I ACTUALLY said…

Because we tell you all that WE DONT want to join your guilds or use LFG. WE want to use LFR. but you cant just RESPECT that response and quite often many in here start calling names like …

uh…dont need to because I can LFR.

uh…no…it DOESNT.
LFR is another OPTION…a CHOICE…it doesnt PREVENT anything.

oh. wait…did you think that was my intent here?
Sorry to confuse…I dont expect you to change your mind. Not you, not anyone else. just correcting fallacies is all Im really interested in.

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You know what all of this is? This is literally all of the things you think they’re not inviting you for. Like…unless your name is actually offensive who the hell doesn’t invite you for that alone?

Unless you’re a prot paladin I don’t see this being the case for anyone. Right now in MC, you need a lot of Mages for Decurse and it’s ideal to have 4 Locks for Banishing on Gar as well as having 4 tanks and a decent spread of healers. Everything else can literally be whatever in your DPS lineup.

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And if I wanted to find a group as a ret paladin, shadow priest, or feral druid in Classic?

Or hell, even as a non-dwarf healing priest. I’ve seen groups there reject folks purely for that. They claim that choosing a non-dwarf for aesthetic reasons is “selfish” and “not a team player” and thus they feel don’t deserve groups.

If they are only inviting friends why would they be advertising in trade chat or the LFG tool?

I lead plenty of groups. I don’t think I’ve ever rejected someone for their name, however in rare cases some people have gotten a free heroic carry because they were signed up and despite being horribly underqualified for the group their name was hilarious.

What is this? Where do I get an invite?

Uhhhh thats not how it works. If one group has 6 healers another might have 1. Sign up for the group that needs your class / spec / role.

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