LFR is not getting removed. Get over it already

[Gaiazhel-bonechewer]

Yeah but I can actually have a debate and a conversation about various topics while removing my own personal bias.

Your plan is what? removing LFR that is being used and keeping casuals out of the hair of normal players…by doing what? Forcing those casuals to run normals which many of them will then start demanding that its made easier JUST AS they have with LFR?
Im sorry but that does take bias to come up with that kind of plan that isnt looking at human nature and the history of this game so far and how players have behaved.

Keep in mind, I use LFR almost exclusively so whatever changes, whether I find them good or bad, would directly affect me.

As is the case with 99% of the LFR haters in here. In EVERY case Ive checked they have a long history of LFR themselves.

[Gaiazhel-bonechewer]

Like i said…youre need to go READ the threads.
Im NOT interested in YOU wasting MY time .
You and I are done here if you cant stay on topic.

I wasn’t trying to waste your time. You claimed that there are CoC violations in this thread, but I don’t think that is the case, because the mods here do an amazing job.

Could it be the case that you just don’t like what people are saying and you are perceiving them as CoC violations? This happens a lot on these forums. People report and try to silence a variety of topics they don’t like.

topic please.

[Gaiazhel-bonechewer]

Try counting again.

Edit: By the way, we were having a perfectly fine conversation till you jumped in. Keep that in mind.

as a side note…that is NOT true at all. You and I were NOT having a ‘perfectly fine’ exchange last evening.

[Sabbia-moonrunner (Sabbia)]

Your plan is what? removing LFR that is being used and keeping casuals out of the hair of normal players…by doing what? Forcing those casuals to run normals which many of them will then start demanding that its made easier JUST AS they have with LFR?

See, this is an example of a wild assumption. Fact of the matter is we don’t know this would be the case and personally, I look more on the positive side of things and believe the player base as a whole would be perfectly fine with it. Could be wrong, could be right but that’s what I believe.

Also, I don’t remember anyone asking for LFR to be nerfed. If it get’s any easier, you might be able to sleep through it lol.

As is the case with 99% of the LFR haters in here. In EVERY case Ive checked they have a long history of LFR themselves.

Yeah, and?

[Sabbia-moonrunner (Sabbia)]

At what point was I talking about you? You can’t have a perfectly fine conversation if you had an instruction manual in front of you.

[Primalmatter-stormrage (Primalmatter)]

topic please.

Why?

You have over 260 posts in this thread white knighting lfr. You actively avoid any argument you can’t shout down and keep spamming the low hanging fruit responses in an attempt to keep the conversation away from the actual draw backs of lfr.

I know that posting on the forums is pointless fluff people do while waiting in queue or on a flight path or even killing time at work but at some point you just gotta let it go.

[Gaiazhel-bonechewer]

See, this is an example of a wild assumption.

Hardly. Im pretty sure you said somewhere in this thread that that was what you wanted.
And what you remember isnt relevant. Ive seen posts in here for two years about LfR being ‘faceroll’ and ‘real’ raiders accusing LFR players of being whiny about making LFR easier.
Im here EVERY DAY. I read a LOT.

Yeah, and?

That your ‘I play LFR so Im affected’ doesnt mean a lot. MOST LFR haters in here would be affected.

[Sabbia-moonrunner (Sabbia)]

Hardly. Im pretty sure you said somewhere in this thread that that was what you wanted.
And what you remember isnt relevant. Ive seen posts in here for two years about LfR being ‘faceroll’ and ‘real’ raiders accusing LFR players of being whiny about making LFR easier.
Im here EVERY DAY. I read a LOT.

I said in this thread that I wanted people to whine for LFR to get nerfed? Going to have to point me in the direction of that one lol.

That your ‘I play LFR so Im affected’ doesnt mean a lot. MOST LFR haters in here would be affected.

Makes you wonder why the people that mostly use LFR would want for it to be removed. Almost like it might affect them negatively.

[Gaiazhel-bonechewer]

Why?

You have over 260 posts in this thread white knighting lfr.

uh…because its the rules of the forum to stay on topic so we dont get it locked down?
You just want any detail to bicker about now?

[Zakutabiba-lightnings-blade (Zakutabiba)]

Why?

You have over 260 posts in this thread white knighting lfr. You actively avoid any argument you can’t shout down and keep spamming the low hanging fruit responses in an attempt to keep the conversation away from the actual draw backs of lfr.

I know that posting on the forums is pointless fluff people do while waiting in queue or on a flight path or even killing time at work but at some point you just gotta let it go.

I keep wondering why he won’t answer people with a reply with some substance. He said there are CoC violations occurring in this thread and I asked where. His reply was “topic please” Classic deflection of something he didn’t want to answer.

I’m sorry but the mods here do an amazing job, if any posts is crossing the line they usually act FAST!

[Gaiazhel-bonechewer]

I said in this thread that I wanted people to whine for LFR to get nerfed?

whew.

Your plan is what? removing LFR that is being used and keeping casuals out of the hair of normal players

[Sabbia-moonrunner (Sabbia)]

That’s your quote, not mine. Might want to double check that.

[Gaiazhel-bonechewer]

dude…i know whose it was…I fixed it.

[Sabbia-moonrunner (Sabbia)]

And it’s still wrong because I never said that lol.

[Primalmatter-stormrage (Primalmatter)]

[Blimpo-thunderhorn (Blimpo)]

They would, now. The addition of LFR was the only way they could justify continuing to spend resources on raids at all back in, Cata I believe it was. and they stated as much at the time. No LFR, No Raids.

They never said none, but certainly there would be a lot fewer and smaller raids… think WoD quantity.

[Gaiazhel-bonechewer]

Ill find the exact quote soon enough, but the idea is pretty clear even in these…move LFR players to normal…which is a HORRIBLE idea based on what the complaints we’re seeing inhere about LFR being ‘faceroll’.

Yeah but I personally think it’s a super small minority. I’m almost positive the vast majority of people would have little issue with Normal and would be perfectly fine with it if it had a queue.

Hard is subjective but I have a feeling if you asked the typical LFR goer, they would probably be doing Normal if it had a queue.

Eh, I doubt it would be many. Normal isn’t hard, people mostly don’t do it because it lacks a queue.

[Primalmatter-stormrage (Primalmatter)]

WoD raids were pretty lite to be honest.

[Gaiazhel-bonechewer]

and THERE it is…

Easy: move the queue to Normal and drop LFR, stop forcing people to run raids for the relevant story beats, and continue to expand on gearing options outside of raids.

[Sabbia-moonrunner (Sabbia)]

Ill find the exact quote soon enough, but the idea is pretty clear even in these…move LFR players to normal…which is a HORRIBLE idea based on what the complaints we’re seeing inhere about LFR being ‘faceroll’.

No you won’t and no it’s not. You used your own quote as evidence that I said people are calling for LFR to be nerfed, which is ridiculous. Also, LFR is faceroll which is why I think it should be moved to Normal. Honestly, if people are saying LFR is faceroll, that’s just evidence to suggest it either needs a slight bump in difficulty or it needs to be moved to Normal.