LFR is not getting removed. Get over it already

What part of my argument is intellectually dishonest?

Do explain less I accuse you of using terms you don’t have a solid grasp on.

Things were fine even with LFG in the game before Cata Hit, Cataclysm is what hurt WoW. Them deciding to mix things up for the sake of mixing things up, because some people complained things were “Too easy” killed literally half the games subs.

DUDE…I can SEE the sub chart in front of me right now.
There were 2 to 2.5 million sub losses thru cata BEFORE LFR.
And it started at the beginning of cata…which says the CONTENT sucked.
And Ive read enough about the MOP hate early on to know to EXPECT to see sub losses there.
Sorry if it dont fit your narrative, but NOTHING in the evidence Ive seen says that those subs were lost BECAUSE of LFR.
youre going tohave to come to terms with that at some point.
Maybe in another 8 years?

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You literally used a false equivalance, an extreme one at that, and further are arguing through your own colored bias, and believing that your opinion is the only opinion that matters and is correct, despite literally just going off the rails for no reason.

You are literally just arguing for arguments sake, and trying to remove things from a game, despite it having no impact on you, because you simply don’t like it.

Your a troll. Plain and Simple.

And at this point your not even worth acknowledging anymore.

I find arguing that the path of least resistance isn’t the most appealing to be a flawed argument at best.

Simply because it didn’t hard lock out content doesn’t mean its effects didn’t accomplish the same thing in practice.

What was the false equivalency?

Not only did you miss use the term you used it in the wrong tense…

I lay out my arguments then you wiggle and squirm trying to get around them.

…And…the graph shows a pretty steady decline thru cata and MoP.
That spike at the beginning of MOP is clearly about players returning for NEW content then realizing they hated it and quitting again.
NOTHING about it even hints at LFR being the cause…sorry.
The same kinda thing with WoD
The subs spiked, the dropped even faster than they did in either previous expansion.
THAT SAYS BAD CONTENT…

easy enough to figure it out when one isnt biased against one thing or another.

But it didn’t. People didn’t like running with you so they stopped when they got the chance. Sounds like a you problem. :woman_shrugging:

The problem is that people want LFR to be all of these things:

1.) End-all, be-all content for them, while being extremely easy and convenient.
2.) Drop tier gear, mounts, toys, pets, and everything the higher difficulties tend to drop aside from recolors.

People want LFR to be even worse than it is right now, because they are entitled and want their cake and to eat it too. I imagine people are so tired of arguing with players like this who care not a single wit about what that would do to the health of the game.

and who knows why you even bother wasting your time arguing into the wind.
LFR isnt going anywhere while raids exist.
Blizzard will follow the $$$ as ANY business would.
Casuals are the $$$ for this game…for MOST games…which is why difficulty settings even exist.
And thats not your business or concern if someone chooses easy mode.
you play your game…stop obsessing about theirs.

Your arguments are always " I don’t like it, so it should be removed". You present your opinions as objective fact. You did the same with flying, and you’re doing the same now. At this point, the only reasoning that you’re still here is that you pay your sub solely to complain on the forums, which is sad.

Yeah, you guys definitely don’t want me in your normals. I easily put the “ard” in “hunt”.

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Not really it is pretty simple to see the effects the path of least resistance has.

If the most powerful item in the game was gotten by asking a guard where blacksmithing was learned 10.000 times play time metrics would show it as the most popular content ever added to the game.

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blaming The drop in subs in cata on the increase dungeon difficulty is blocking out a lot of the other things that changed with wrath. I can remember the concept of “triage” healing being very disliked because people thought it was to stressful.

no…that ‘problem’ is YOUR creation to justify pointless, irrational hatred.

entitled like demanding that content that has no bearing on your game be removed because ‘muh raids’ ?

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I’ll do non-LFR as time permits, but will generally do LFR on Alts and to learn basic mechanics.

It’s a keeper.

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uh…no.it wouldnt.
Because players would get the item then get bored :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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My argument is that I don’t think its good for the game. The examples I give are not opinions simply the effects it has had…

If blizzard followed the money retail would be abandoned for a expansion building off classic…

I don’t think this is a argument you really want to make. You are a minority now.

No, I’m demanding that a cancerous type of content be removed for the improved health of the game.

This is a social genre. GET OVER IT ALREADY. If you want to do difficult content, yo absolutely should be required to communicate with others.

Imagine going into Dark Souls and whining about the difficulty and trying to get it removed. You people have barged into a genre you have no business being in and have changed it to suit your wildly different tastes.