Lfr is bad for the game

[Abruek-turalyon (Abruek)]

We get it dude, but what is your point?

I gave you my point, you choose to ignore it.

My issue is that the exponential character power growth and curvature has never been more out of control. If you understand that, good, if you don’t I can explain a little. Four difficulties increases a balanced yet large power gain range of roughly 60 item levels, which from 340-385 it about a 90% increase power gain within the entire first Tier. The problem is we have 3.5 more Tiers on the way, with BoD and Crucible(half Tier) soon to come, we’re getting another two after that. Now discussion is a touchy subject because some children here are afraid the “big bad elitist” is here to take the toys away, but I think thing would work if LFR was pushed to heroic dungeons difficulty (which I’d day its already easier than that, and conjoin Normal and Heroic to one. That way there would be the introduction to raiding, the “Normal”, and the “Heroic”, without having to deal with a stat squish every expansion (160k HP at 385, 250k at 415)

The post your referring to is my statement on how LFR definitely has done damage to the game, saying it has zero effect is silly.

[Tyriellais-thunderhorn (Tyriellais)]

I agree. Four difficulties is too much. Let’s ditch Heroic and Mythic, they’ve clearly only bloated the iLevel and split up the raiding community.

[anon2121503]

I don’t know anything personal about the OP. All I know is she started a thread complaining about getting silenced repeatedly because she was spamming ads for raid/m+ carries in trade chat.

yeah…Ive got a fairly long list of them on ignore.
I let it slide a time or two, but when they keep spamming I ignore and report them anymore.
Carries where ANY exchange goes on should be a permaban.
THAT is what is encouraging bad play…not LFR

[anon2121503]

My issue is that the exponential character power growth and curvature has never been more out of control.

Which, again…has NOTHING to do with my being able to gather up a random group.
That is a NUMBERS issue…NOT a convenience issue.

[Nonserviam-kul-tiras]

Wiping on LFR in the last week of the season where you should be super buffed with 10 stacks of reorigination and 90% of boss mechanics are non existent is not “fine” …LFR is pure cancer
Which is why the gear it drops is even lower than what you can get from doing WQ or emissary.

It it’s that bad, then don’t run it? I’m not a fan of it, so I don’t, but I also don’t do any kind of pvp but I’m not calling for the end of it. That’s problem with some wow players. If they don’t like, everybody should dislike it.

Again, don’t like it. Don’t do it.

[Abruek-turalyon (Abruek)]

I agree. Four difficulties is too much. Let’s ditch Heroic and Mythic, they’ve clearly only bloated the iLevel and split up the raiding community.

Actually read what I wrote this time honey.

[Tyriellais-thunderhorn (Tyriellais)]

I did. You want to drop it to two tiers. I’m just arguing an easier way to do it. We’ll leave LFR the way it is, as an intro or leveling raid, like Normal dungeons, meant to get you through the story, and then we’ll have the Heroic mode for the people who want to feel epic. It cuts the gear level, and lets people do what they want to do.

Don’t want LFR? Don’t do it.

[anon2121503]

Again I’m not saying remove it , but to say it hasn’t done damage to the community is blindly ignorant.

Nonsense.
TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS of players there.
One who WANTS all that crap you mentioned.
The other who just wants to LFR the raid and get it over with.
Neither has any effect on the other except the former seems to want to cry about the latter.

[Esdeathx-area-52]

You run it if you’re in a guild that’s progressing,say normal.

You need the higher ilvl, so you squeeze out more performance.

Of they equalized LFR ilvl to heroic dungeons, not a single raider would need to run them.

[Esdeathx-area-52]

You’re arguing here as if heroic and mythic is equivalent to mythic.

Do you understand that normal mode,which was called ‘flex’,for people that actually know what they’re doing is tourist mode as well?

[anon2121503]

Don’t want LFR? Don’t do it.

exactly.
Funny thing is the ‘real’ raiders are spending their time doing that instead of whining about LFR in here on a daily basis.

[Esdeathx-area-52]

Again you say nothing of worth.

More worthless arguments.

[Tyriellais-thunderhorn (Tyriellais)]

Yep, it flexes. It adjusts for you. Want to make it harder? Do it with a smaller group. Five man it. Solo it. I’m sure you’ll find a challenge eventually.

[anon2121503]

You’re arguing here as if heroic and mythic is equivalent to mythic.

Do you understand that normal mode,which was called ‘flex’,for people that actually know what they’re doing is tourist mode as well?

Do YOU understand that by your arguments here that youre ignoring the same exact issue ?
IF this is about not having ‘tourist mode’ then ALL of the difficulties MUST be removed other than the hardest.
Plain, simple logic.
You dont get to whine about LFR mechanics being easy…then ignore the fact that ‘real’ raiding with multiple difficulties has the EXACT same issue with normal and mythic.

[anon2121503]

Again you say nothing of worth.

More worthless arguments.

lack of understanding on your part does not negate valid arguments on mine.
sorry.

[Abruek-turalyon (Abruek)]

I did. You want to drop it to two tiers.

Are you stupid, or blind like your Demon Hunter?

That way there would be the introduction to raiding, the “Normal”, and the “Heroic”, without having to deal with a stat squish every expansion (160k HP at 385, 250k at 415)

[Esdeathx-area-52]

What are you talking about?

Have you started playing in Legion or something?

You’re trying to avoid providing a good solution

Why?

[anon2121503]

Outside of your silly LFR comment with zero context the rest I agree with. Mythic + raiders literally have 50+ ilvl gear difference from someone who does LFR.

It is insane the hate LFR gets like it destroyed the WoW community. People who cry about LFR I can promise you never did LFM prior to it. It took HOURS to do a single raid and if a tank left then add another hour or LITERALLY standing there.

ugh.
Every time I read about classic all the way up thru the point where the group finder was added and LFR was avaiable I get this feeling like fingernails on a chalkboard.
I read about WoW when it came out. I was excited to try it out…but reading comments on line pushed me away from even trying it.
The ONLY reason I gave WoW a chance 18 months ago was solely because my brother in law swore to me that current wow was nothing like vanilla.
I like TODAYS version.
Id cancel three subs tomorrow if it heads back down the path of classic.

[Tyriellais-thunderhorn (Tyriellais)]

Yeah, I did misread or misunderstand that. So you want to cut it to three, by purging LFR and making Normal able to be queued? Better idea: Purge Mythic, make Normal able to be queued, and leave the rest alone.

Don’t like LFR? Don’t do it.

[Esdeathx-area-52]

I’m ignoring your incoherent blabbering. You and I are done.

You’ve done nothing to provide proof to back up your claims, and just keep foaming at the mouth like some sjw.