because, long ago people started rolling need usually it was just 1 or 2 people. But Blizzard did nothing about it so slowly more and more people started rolling need because thats the only way they felt to make it fair, if someones gonna use need for greed their only chance is to roll need too. This eventually infected the majority of the population.
This is what happens when Blizzard ignores abuses of a system.
If you don’t roll need in pug groups, you have a 0% chance of winning because all it takes is one other person to roll need and your roll no longer matters.
Tier, Higher track, transmog, holding for ransom, doesn’t matter as to why, the “only roll need if you need it” honor system is dead in pugs.
ilvl is temporary, tmog is forever
Blizzard created the problem by having no reasonable means of getting LFR Transmog Colors without Rolling Need in LFR Runs.
The alternative is literally waiting like 4 years to solo it. There are other reasons, but this is the big one that people bypass the intended way rolls work on, because it’s unreasonable to not do so.
I need or greed on everything in LFR, time is money and I’m getting something outta this run one way or another.
You say that but, I guarantee if they created a system that was need/transmog/greed. and Need won over transmog and transmog over greed. Everyone would still roll need. because blizzard would turn a blind eye. Either way it don’t matter your opinion my opinion we both agree it’s Blizzard fault.
i have been saying since the start of dragonflight that the transmog button needs to be redesigned.
if a player needs an item for transmog then they click the transmog button. if they win the transmog roll they will win the appearance and not the physical item.
the need roll will continue to work as intended. to win the physical item.
but nobody listens to me.
Oh so they did eventually add a transmog button. And people still roll need? Not surprised.
I preferred the personal loot system, so I always roll need out of spite.
maybe he’s like me and doesn’t lfr in his main spec? it might be an upgrade there.
i have better shoes iirc for my offspec than i do with main spec. but yeah, i feel ya. that would suck. i try not to look too hard at the loot aspect of lfr. 
Because rolling transmog is essentially passing. You roll need if you want even a chance at getting the item.
I would sympathize but that’d make me a hypocrite. I definitely do this.
yes but in order to win the item you would need everyone in the group to pass.
the order of priority goes need>greed>transmog.
thats why they need to redesign the transmog button to allow for its own side roll that will allow the winner to get the appearance.
They’d need to remove the pop up that shows everyone’s rolls as well if they implement this. If I see that 5 people are rolling need and 12 are rolling t-mog there’s no way I’m pressing the mog button.
It pretty much works on the honor system and hoping that no one else rolls need on it. So in essence, it’s completely worthless and you’re better off just rolling need in 99% of cases.
Is that… not how it works right now?
People roll Need because the nature of LFR being entry level content means there is ALWAYS some undergeared player or alt that actually needs the loot and is therefore rolling Need.
In such an environment, anything that falls beneath “Need” isn’t a viable roll. And when there’s no reasonable alternative to get that loot when you yourself aren’t the undergeared player who needs the gear to equip it, I don’t blame people for ignoring the intent of the system and using it in a way that forces it to work.
But, yeah, something Blizzard needs to address either way.
Either separate transmog rolls, higher versions of gear awarding all lower appearances (therefore no reason for them to even run LFR), something.
Thats an improper order. It should be need/transmog/greed considering the communities feelings on the importance of transmog. Greed should be reserved for disenchanting and vendoring.
This. This would be awesome. Have the transmog roll win a cosmetic, statless version of the item. I hate to win loot rolls from people who need upgrades. This would be a fantastic implementation!
who would kill the bosses for you without those skilled and geared players queueing?
less skilled and geared players with higher determination stacks.
If some hypothetical version of LFR Loot Rules resulted in overgeared players not queueing, then Blizzard would just adjust LFR to be manageable for the demographic that actually engages with it. It’s not like it’s a static pillar that can’t be touched. That, and Determination already exists to hard-carry groups that fail too much.
If you aren’t physically stopping people from rolling need then it doesn’t matter what priority mog rolls are given. People are just going to roll need anyway because anything else is just throwing your roll away.