LFR - if you have better, why roll Need?

In fact, why is it even an option now that there’s a transmog roll?

Just lost an item in LFR I really wanted by one point to some guy who had an item more than 10 ilvl higher already equipped.

Why is he even able to roll Need? Why does the system not restrict people who have better to a transmog roll? How does this make sense?

That guy got it to unlock the transmog and vendored it, how is that a NEED roll?

Disgusting system.

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enchanter, moggs, etc.

They have just as much need for mogg as you do for stats

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Transmog, the actual end game

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Maybe it was a veteran track item he wanted to replace a maxed out adventurer track item with. Once upgraded with valorstones, it will be a higher item level. :upside_down_face:

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Because it feels incredible bad to constantly lose any other type of roll and you finally want some kinda of dopamine hit

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A shard is worth more than an LFR rando.

Sorry not sorry

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what if i need gold

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devils advocate but the go go go nature of LFR hardly gives you time to compare the two items (even if there’s a timer) so most people just click need on impulse

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Enchanters roll need because you need it to disenchant. (Wipes dust from nose)

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It’s always been an issue with “need rolls”, because different people define “need” differently.

I mean, heck, if someone needs gold they’ll argue “I need gold, so it IS a need roll, lol”. Even though that is supposed to be covered by “greed” rolls, people will still say “nah, bruh, I really NEED the gold, it’s not greedy, lol” and go ahead and roll need.

It would be best if the categories were more restricted, and need were renamed to something like “needed statistical upgrade” or something, but we’re kind of stuck with this old system that has always been an issue because “need” is a very poorly conceived category due to the inherent subjectivity of how people interpret it in a self-serving way. The initial intent of the category way back when may have been “needed upgrade”, but people don’t care about that now.

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these people dont even need to do LFR for LFR appearances anymore

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Here we go again. That didn’t take long…

Sorry friend, but you need to learn to deal with things like this with emotional maturity. It happens, and it shouldn’t bother you. Until you can get to that place, stop inspecting others to see if they “deserve” the item more than you. That behavior is itself pretty toxic, although it harms you way more than it harms the person who won the roll as it makes you miserable.

Because everybody that was there and eligible to roll has the exact same claim to the item as you do. What they plan to do with it has no bearing whatsoever on that fact.

Not really, but it could be better. Meanwhile, people sure do develop disgusting attitudes towards others when their greed/envy/jealousy isn’t satisfied.

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Honestly, the attitude of people before, during, and after personal loot is just proof that people will say anything to excuse being uncooperative with other players

Me? I’m too old to care anymore. People with poor attitudes will always have poor attitudes, and complaining about it just gives them validation. It’s like feeding a troll

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Transmog roll is almost completely useless as it exists and is pretty much just throwing your roll away.

That said, I think you’d be better served not looking for reasons to be pissed off and just moving on when you lose rolls.

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In DF I did run LFR for three weeks, not got a single item roll won…

The old system was so much better, I pretty much geared an entire char in two weeks.

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LFR is mogs

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Yeah. I mean in effect you are incentivized to roll need on anything you are able to, and roll greed on everything else. And I think this is what most people do – the category names are meaningless, it’s just a roll priority system, really.

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Why do they? Greed. Why does Blizzard allow for it? Incompetence.

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LFR Looting is an atrocious system.

People are there for:

  • Actual Gearing
  • Transmog Farming
  • Disenchant Fodder
  • Helping friends win loot
  • Idk, Fun? Doubt it.

Everyone wants SOMETHING for being there, so every item has 10+ people rolling on it (unless it’s a shield or ranged weapon, which have less competition for obvious reasons).

Blizzard needs to either revert it to personal loot (because that’s exactly how it’s functioning at this point, but personal loot doesn’t come loaded with player aggression toward people who “won”, at least not beyond “hey do you need that” whispers), or they need to implement Transmog and DE Rolls that are SEPARATE from the standard Need/Greed roll. Win the Transmog Roll or DE Roll vs others of the same roll type? Grats, you get the appearance / Enchanting Mats, and the Normal Need Roll person still gets the actual piece of wearable gear.

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