LFD, Blizzard is lying

Indefinite growth is impossible. Blizzard actually talked about that back in the day, they essential hit a point where virtually everyone who might play WoW had around that time.

It’s also not like vanilla and TBC had near 100% retention and then suddenly people started to leave in Wrath.

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Did it flatten, or did it just reach critical mass where the number of potential MMO players and number of people actually subbed to WoW were basically the same number?

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Well vanilla and TBC garnered 10 million subs with out RDF. How many subs did wrsth post RdF loss then gained back?

The better question is how many more subs would vanilla and TBC have gotten if they’d had LFD :slight_smile:

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I guess you didnt want to answer the question bc it didnt look good for your narrative?

Well how many people do you think quit during vanilla/TBC?

BEcause pro tip, those didn’t have 100% retention.

Again not asnswering the question. Lol its ok :+1:

Yep all we know is total sub counts as that’s all blizzard has published, which peaked in wrath post LFD.

I don’t know how many people quit between LFD being added and Cata anymore than I know I know how many people quit in vanilla and TBC. Although given that blizzard has said they had something like over 100 million unique subs by wrath I’m guessing quite a lot of people quit before wrath.

7.4 million garnered by vanilla 4 million garnered by TBC, Wrath total threw our entire expansion garnered 1 million. It went down hill after during and after cataclysm. I could easily state the game was more popular and garnered more subs pre RDF. Im not against RDF but the classic andy’s do have a case if they so choose to present it.

You’re not counting how many people quit during vanilla/TBC :slight_smile:

Pro tip they did not have 100% retention.

Also most people didn’t do all of the endgame, whereas in Wrath a lot more people got to do it. So of course there’d be lower retention. That’s not a bad thing.

XIV does this intentionally so people can play other games too.

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They had more retention then wrath with RDF…

Did they? Now you get to answer, how many players quit during vanilla/TBC?

4million is a greater number than 1 million lol… if wrath was peak wow then how did TBC garner more subs then wrath?? :thinking: wouldnt TBC be considered peak wow?? It garnered the most sub growth post vanilla.

That’s not what I asked, you don’t know how many people quit during vanilla/TBC?

Pro tip retention is different than sub count.

She’s been doing this before the LFD removal announcement.
Now that it came to past she’s really gonna get going.
Just cease and desist talking to her really.
So sick of these trolls friggin’ up the game.

U never answered my original question. Ill answer when you do. Dont worry i wont tell zaalg u smeared the narrative.

I already gave you the answer, I don’t know how many people quit post LFD and pre cata. Just as you don’t know how many people quit during vanilla/TBC.

All we do know is Wrath was the peak of WoW subs. We can however make some educated guesses based on how many total unique subs WoW had vs total sub counts and it’s draw a very reasonable conclusion that huge numbers of players(10’s of millions) joined and quit long before both wrath and LFD.

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How can wrath be peak when BC gained 400% more subs then wrath? :thinking: if your saying wrath was great bc it had over 12 million subs? I would say was it tho bc it only brought it 1 million more players compared to TBC bringing in 4 million.

Retention is a different metric than number of new subs :slight_smile:

As is total sub count than number of new subs :slight_smile:

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