This is Alice’s main. To all of those who think I have no place in this game based on LFD or any other reason I implore you. Ignore me. Blacklist me. I have zero intrest in playing with you in Wrath and as you hide on alts I will put my main out there so you can block my main.
I don’t want to play with you. Period. You are making me hate life so I will gladly let you put me on an ignore list so I will never have to hear from you again.
Sub numbers peaked in Wrath. We didn’t the first major sub drop until Cata.
That they managed to end wrath with over 12 million subs despite a year long content draught speaks for itself about how popular Wrath was.
There is social elements of the game that are sacrificed in favor of convenience with LFD. This is indisputable. You are only proving my point, you don’t care about it and are taking any preference for them as a personal attack. If anything that makes you selfish, you want to add in a feature that takes away elements of what other people enjoy about the game. There is a lot of games out there with automated queueing for you to enjoy, classic is an old-school mmo, most of wrath didn’t have lfd, most of the target audience don’t want lfd. Putting in LFD negatively affects the target audience who enjoy those social elements that would be sacrificed if LFD is in.
Actually no it’s very disputable.
The relevant social interaction happens in a dungeon not while forming the group. Particularly in the case of pugging. And LFD is also optional so people who don’t want to use it can simply not use it. If you’re already dungeoning with friends/guildies great, LFD doesn’t force you not to do that.
I hate hearing this when I feel bad for having to put up with pain. It is like "Oh sorry you don’t like feeling the way you do? Suck it up butter cup. Put up with the abuse you selfish little peice of crap. Don’t you know it isn’t right to feel good about yourself? Don’t you know it isn’t right to try and seek help?
Just keep taking the abuse. Just keep sitting in that well of misry as it’s selfish not to. Sit there and feel bad and then you can be a good little boy. Here is a treat for being misrible.
Decent people don’t seek help and stuff their feelings down.
they say this then break out the Credit Card, buy some gold and get carried or buy their way in on GDKP…
IMO that’s not playing the game; at that point just watch some youtube videos on the content, and pretend you got the loot because even if you buy it, you really don’t have it because you didn’t really raid for it.
I’m guessing that this is an exaggeration? Hopefully. Speaking as someone who isn’t at all happy with certain things with this game/Blizzards decisions and speaking as someone who can take this game way too seriously, I’ve never quite been there…
Yes, you can put people on ignore on the forums. In-game well that probably won’t happen but on these forums, you’ve got a few options: Walk away if you don’t want to debate things, mute threads, or put people on ignore. Plenty of people already do this, or even just don’t visit here for a few days/at all. Or stop with the forums completely.
At the end of the day, you’re mad about a choice Blizzard made and this choice is on them. You can post your opinion if you want to try to convince Blizzard but there are definitely other posters you will never be able to convince with different opinions and that’s just how it is. There is no democracy and you don’t have to convince them.
More truth has never been spoken 
Exactly what Op said…thanks for proving the point…
Where are you getting this info? Every tracking site has WOW subs increasing until mid Wrath where they stop at 12 Million and stay that way until the middle of the first Tier of Cata when the big drops started.
I never heard any complaints in game or on the forums when LFD was introduced. In fact it was the opposite. Players on Low Pop Realm had easier access to the Heroic Daily and players who manually formed groups amongst friends/guildies used the feature for fast travel to the instance.
I have to say Mootwo, well said!
It’s not and anyone who says this is either deluded or lying. It’s human nature people will take the path of least resistance if the option is available. I’ll bring up a point asmongold made, if you added in a rat tail drop that sold to a vendor for 1 million gold, of course everyone is going to sell it. They can sell it, while still acknowledging it’s bad for the game and shouldn’t be in there. You can’t say something that affects groups and group formation is a social game doesn’t have a net affect on everyone who plays.
Except that’s not the case with LFD. For someone really interested in min maxxing preforming groups for dungeons is still the superior option over LFD. LFD is just a QoL improvement for people pugging.
Wrong again. There is zero need to min max WotLK heroics because they are completely brain dead. They are so easy you see people steam rolling them at 77-78 on the beta. They have no punishing mechanics, nothings hits hard, you don’t have to be careful with pulls or threat, they have nothing that requires you to use your brain in the slightest.
You can either make dungeons brain dead like WotLK, and LFD takes away the social aspect which is the only thing preventing them from feeling like a dreaded chore, or you can make dungeons hard and LFD is indisputably awful on top of killing the social aspect.
There’s no need to min max most things in WoW, that doesn’t mean people can’t/won’t/don’t especially in classic.
People will min max raids for their parse d*** measuring contest. Nobody is going to do that in heroic dungeons.
You’re replying to a guy who brings resilience gear to raid on his shaman and uses the all resistance flasks (no really)
His warrior is his alt.
The people who care about min maxxing sure as heck will just like they did in vanilla classic dungeons and TBC classic dungeons.
There have already been posts about people 15 minuting dungeons in beta, that’s not being done in random pugs.
Nobody was min maxing vanilla and tbc dungeons. Nice try.
If anything, dads/boomers/keyboard turners were min maxing vanilla/tbc dungeons because that’s the only way they had a chance to clear them.