Lets talk RDF

Yall cried for a year (me included) for RDF and the reason at the beginning why they didnt want to do this was because of toxic behavior. Well were two weeks in and lets say they were correct on the toxic behaviors. With all the kickings and people leaving dungeons because of GS. only had this issue happen once to one of my toons, but its a constant thing. I always see people leave due to their 5.6 to 5.8k gs and everyone else is sitting low 5k or high 4k. Now im seeing people selling roles in trade chat. if yall want to keep RDF yall better kick the crap or blizzard will get rid of RDF and not bring it back. Want to go back to having to fly to every dungeon…especially with cata on the horizon

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You forgot to thank me (and anyone else who reads this) for coming to your TED talk.

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I did over 100 dungeons and only in one run a player was actually kicked for being toxic, not because of gear. As said muliple times, there are more people posting about bad runs, because the overall run count is easily over 10 times higher compared to before RDF was introduced. The only real change with RDF is that its easier to access and therefore more inexperienced players get to play dungeons.

More players with bad gear+less experience => longer runs, more wipes => more toxic people

Gatekeeping helps to keep these players out, but keeping new players out, is never good for a game in the long run.

Btw. players selling their heal/tank service, players leaving mid run and not inviting or kicking players for having low gear has been a thing even before RDF.

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there are no new players, all players are alts of retail players. Without a separate subscription, classic generates literally zero revenue - in fact negative revenue due to cost of operating.

I’ve run over 100 RDFs by now. Haven’t seen anyone getting kicked for anything other than being rude and mean.

Would literally be all doing our roles but THAT ONE DUDE jusr decides to be NASTY AF for no real reason. So yeah, they are getting kicked instantly.

Never have seen anyone getting kicked for low GS.
Never seen anyone getting kicked for wipes.
Never seen anyone getting kicked for low DPS or bad healing or bad tanking.

The only people who get kicked are those that AFK and nasty people.

You’re welcome to do so. Fly to whatever dungeon you want to queue for.

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rdf is great stop crying.

blizz could stop alot of th kicks with the 15min timer before a vote can take place.

most kicks are prob from the same GS morons that would not let you join their group before rdf.

kicking people that meet blizzards ilvl requirement is greifing and should be reported

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So you’ve only seen this yourself once but are convinced it’s happening frequently?

I’ve done dozens of gammas and only kicked a person in one group for performance since the tank was being annoying about it and kept trying to kick them. I finally voted yes after seeing the rogue was consistently basically not doing anything at all (like I could out DPS him as a resto druid just casting a few times on a pull despite him being over 5k GS).

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Meh everyone claiming RDF creates toxic behavior has been proved to be lying.

The quality of dungeon runs hasn’t changed and I’m running more dungeons so RDF is a win.

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No they weren’t. They exist, yes, but they’re few and far between, and I can all but guarantee most of them are the people who were decrying RDF in the first place, just so they can point and say “see look I told you see see this is what it does I told you”

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I haven’t touched Retail since Shadowlands, and that was just to quest through the new zones and see the story. I haven’t been a strictly Retail player since BfA when Classic launched in 2019. Didn’t buy Dragonflight and don’t plan to.

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idk so far now i been getting ppl saying hi in the dungeons have a good one, thx. and have a good weekend.
hell i even been saying it myself and ppl reply n i rarely say crap in this game. ppl be decent.
but even then idc if no one says anything im there to do the dungeon not talk lol.

idk, rdf been great for me the only issue is lvls are scuffed but im over it bc blizz is a failure lol

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the barrier to entry is way too low on the titan rune dungeons.
you should have to complete one before queuing in RDF or something, really not that hard to put together.

people can’t even play the video game in regular heroic runs.
not to mention the massive language barrier trying to deal with Portuguese speaking players trying to get their dailies done in an internet cafe

This wasnt it, it was “server communities though!” and “communication”.

Realistically its the low lifes trying to make their predictions come true, they are the ones being toxic.

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Just showing their true colors as control freak who don’t actually care about anything other than their arbitrary ways they want people to play.

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They showed their true colors even prior to RDF.

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Yes, “Muh community” was just a cover story. Gatekeeping was always the goal.

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No they didn’t. Not even going to read anymore because this is inaccurate.

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Need on everything that drops. It’s what makes Wrath dungeons great. Everyone is doing it, so it’s ok :crazy_face: :beer:

I haven’t touched retail since CATACLYSM. I have played classic since August of 2019, day 1. And I’m not even close to the only ones. Lots of people play Classic without playing retail’s garbage.

You are not only wrong, but so utterly wrong it’s not even meme-worthy.

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Not having this issue at all on EU. I’ve yet to be kicked. Everyone who gets kicked is usually mouthy and/or is causing wipes despite being told how not to several times.

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