Let's talk about the elephants in the Room when it comes to faction balance the bloods

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OK I know I might be bringing up a topic that’s going to trigger a lot of people fights since I haven’t seen anyone else really talk directly about this.

Every single time I hear the topic come up about faction balance it seems like everyone thinks that it’s only going to be about 10% increase in horde population.

I think that’s extremely naive in very optimistic I don’t know I think that it’s going to go up a lot more because of the Rachel’s.

And the 3 Biggest reasons Arcane torrent Blood fury and camand

Now don’t get me wrong will of the fursaken is power But those 3 are the really big outliers.

And no I’m not going talk about pvp Are there speak as well If I’m being honest I think all blizzard would have to do is give humans all man’s for themselves and then that’s done.

If you want my opinion I think Allie Rachel should be buffed a little bit as long as it makes sense for the race.

Yeah I know nobody wants to do it and nobody thinks it should because the base argument I’ve Well alliance got fear Ward.

Yes you are correct however I would make an argument that as powerful as fear Ward is a does can a drop off at some points.

Like that every single raid on every single boss are going to have to deal with fear not only that if we’re really going talk about the top end.

People that are so Tell parsing if your DPS is Fast enough they probly kill it before that mechanic is relevant.

Here’s my thing Am I one of those people that will get parses know but a lot of people are however even i can see.

Hunters and wore locks The to highest DPS in burning Crusade.

Add both of them can be orcs I get a 200 Plus Attack power and spell power D p s cooldown On a 2 minute DCD And an extra 5% damage bonus to my pets When I have a pet class.

If I’m being honest blood fury is good OK and yes you could make the argument bout the healing deep of makes it really badd and PVP.

M people will go on and on about perception Well here is my thing about that What’s perception good against.

Rogues and druids What’s well the fursaken good against.

Rogue Druids Mages War locks And priests And Warriors.

Let alone How many fear mechanics are there in the game Verses Stealth mechanics in the game?

And that’s before I even start to go into Blood else with a racial that lets you silence And put AD buff on somebody that keeps them in combat.

And silences then for 30 seconds I believe And restores your resource O and silences aren’t on diminishing returns.

Yes alliance have That heal However 3 minute Verses 2.

If I’m being honest I think if humans God all man’s for themselves.

Both the critical strike for dwarves with guns And give them command.

Give drain I A 5% bonus to strength

At a 5% bonus to agility for night elves.

I think things would be a little bit more balanced

Now granted you could also make an argument that night else could get command because quite honestly it would have made sense for all 3 of those races to get it but I digress.

Yes I know I’m walking on dangerous territory here however we all know horde population is going to jump a lot more than people are estimating.

I still stick to this number I think it’s gonna be 30%.

Because PVP Matters a lot more in burning crusade.

And like it or not people love blood else and over all hordes racial’s are just way more powerful.

And before everyone starts saying I’m over reacting let me remind all of you this is an issue even now.

And it started In burning crusade.

So yeah Right now to my understanding according to iron forge.

It’s 53% alliance And 46% horde Mind you this is warcraft logs And this is server populations through all classic servers.

But I could very easily see that go from 46% 2 76% .

And that 53% going to 23% So yeah Nobody else seems to be talking about this and I do think it’s something that needs to be addressed.

Yes blizzard has done some change like the whole seal of blood thing but If I’m being honest as happy as I am about that change.

As Mills people of said Out of my top 5 reasons why people are going to go horde over alliance seal of blood is probly number 5.

I would say blood Fury And arcane torrent Are 1 and 2

Anyway Just my take on it

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Your spelling is atrocious, even your characters name is horribly misspelled. You called racials “Rachel’s”…

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If you do find Rachel, please call the Arcadia Bay Police Department!

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is this a new copypasta?

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Going to remain neutral on this one because there are more concerning things at the moment to worry about.

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Arcane Torrent isn’t that great. It wasn’t nerfed in Retail until late Legion or BFA, and then it was only due to stacking it in M+ instances.

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Arcane Torrent is pretty powerful when used correctly. I don’t agree with your assertion that it isn’t that great. Like any talent or racial it depends on how it is used. Overall Arcane Torrent is really good.

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This is the point. If a talent is OP, it is by definitely significantly better than others.

I feel we are more in agreement than disagreement, just saying the same thing from different sides.

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Ah, I’d been wondering who Rachel was. I assumed was some important alliance NPC in outlands, but I could recall who it could be.

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I disagree, it’s pretty strong, it’s just in BC you had to use mana tap to “charge” it, and when that was removed EMFH was added which overshadowed every racial (at least in PvP). In PvE it’s still pretty good.

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Compared to what? I don’t think there’s much of an argument for PVP where it’s better than an alternative racial.

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I stopped reading the OP because of how badly formatted it was. Why are you treating each sentence like a paragraph.

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Compared to perception, gift of the naaru, shadowmeld, berserking. But Orc is still strong, Undead is strong, Tauren on the right class is strong. Alliance have Dwarf and Gnome which is only 2 races but thats just how TBC is. There is a reason people gravitate towards Horde over Alliance in TBC.

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I feel like hevinsblaede is some sort of AI that has just achieved consciousness and is trying desperately to communicate

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Yea its pretty good. Overall though ally and horde racials are pretty balanced in TBC.

He’s dyslexic and separating the thoughts out makes it easier to read for him. Also probably explains why it’s maybe a little harder to read for others. I’m sure he’s well aware it’s less than ideal as it’s something he gets to do constantly so belittling him for it probably isnt constructive, especially when it’s not a reflection on his intellect at all.

I made the same mistake and he explained it to me so not trying to make anyone feel bad so much as educate in the same way I was educated.

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Not everyone speaks/writes English from a native perspective and not every native speaker comes from the same background. I find it’s helpful to slow down, read with intention, ponder the ideas presented, and then judge them on their merits.

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Ok but who is Rachel?

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Allie Rachel = ally racial.

It’s so simple that even a human paladin can understand it.

Eventually.

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TL;DR. :tea: :frog:

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Okay but who are the fursaken? A bunch of undead worgen?

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