The garrison style phasing in multiple places. Boom, done.
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Yet to hear this one, but would be interesting to read.
Considering that epsilon does it, i dont buy the “The engine cant do it.” because people are LITERALLY doing it right now.
nonsense. lmao…dont put anything in there but cosmetics. THAT was the garrisons mistake. Dont repeat it. Nothing to do in there and theres no reason to be in there for hours at a time.
BUT…FARMING that stuff for the house out in the world MIGHT actually get us to play more…even run dungeons and crap for it.
TONS of solo crap to do in this game already, guy. Try harder next time.
it makes me giggle when you all think if we dont have solo crap that we’ll suddenly want to play with you.
we wont.
I promise.
so housing aint gonna make you miss us any more than you evidently do right now lol
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I don’t know, man. If a team like Hello Games, which is comprised of 26 people, can incorporate base building into No Man’s Sky, one of the most spaghetti-coded, dysfunctional games in existence given its scale, I really don’t see what excuse Blizzard has.
Unless Blizzard is outright admitting their incompetence, of course. Which isn’t all that surprising.
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It’s not a social feature though. Every game where it’s been implemented has done so in an asocial manner. The cities, towns, overworld are less alive because of it. Those are players I could have chance encounters with, but instead they’re tucked away in their instanced nook. That’s a really big draw back for a game that’s grounded in having a big lively world.
This 
and 
this. These are contradictory.
That’s a really poor argument for the inclusion of player housing, or any feature for that matter. While players may be able to opt out from the feature, they can not opt out from it’s impact. Which would be felt game wide, just like it was with garrisons. The world was empty and dead.
Circling back to the second quote, system linking or system integration is bad design. We learned this with WoD with garrisons, and we just had to relearn it with Shadowlands and the maw all the systems it tied together to burn players out in record time.
Hell dont even have to go that far, if the monkey crew that runs epsilon can do it for free, blizzard can.
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What gets me is people going people will become more anti social if they get housing and to look at the Garrisons as their reason .
Excuse me how much different was the Garrisons to sitting in SW and Org in Cata, the shrines in MoP , Dalaran in Legion , Dazar’alor or Boralus in BfA and Oribos in SL ?
All of those things including Garrisons had a common denominator. They all had Trade chat . Housing could have the same thing .
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the mists farm and garrison prove this to be a total lie.
Every instance we enter is conclusive proof it CAN be done.
And werent we able to ADD some stuff to the garrison? new buildiings…AH…bank…etc.
yeah…someone at bliz is LYING if theyre saying it cant be done.
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On professions, linking old content, and professions would not be controdictory to making it optional.
No one would force you to do old content, no one would force you to make a dining table from your professions.
Yeah, like I said, we only know we Ion says, and from the interview it sounds like it would be a big project. Everyone sounds like they’re on board, so I don’t know why they wouldn’t other than it would cost them money, or take away dev time from other things in the game. it’s just what Ion said in the interview and really we can make assumptions all day but this is what he said.
It’s from april of last year btw, so before DF obviously. Things could’ve changed by now.
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Blizzard designs it in a way that still makes people go out into the world. Don’t give people bank and auction access at the home. There you go, people are still going out and doing things in the world.
The housing experience would simply be an example of going into a dungeon. Instead of raiding, you’re decorating, setting up a house, or socializing. They could even make a housing channel in the chat for people that do want a social experience while in their house.
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Son I play ESO…youre making crap up now. You cant walk 100 feet in any direction without crossing players in the world…including the public dungeons and delves.
no…housing wont cause a problem.
The garrison was too busy. Too much to do inside. dont make that stupid mistake again and it’ll be just fine.
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Exactly my point! Don’t give players the ability to do city things inside of a house.
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The garrison was the entire play feature for the expansion. A fishing hole, a mine, a herb garden… so on. It actively encouraged you to never leave.
Housing, with items sprinkled around the world to go out and get, would be the opposite.
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Right. Well what I’m saying is that Ion is probably exacerbating the effort it might take, more than likely to save face on the fact that they’ve continuously dragged their feet on something that is highly requested and exists in other games. I’m not saying it won’t take a lot of effort, but what I am saying is that it has been accomplished in other games with devs who have a fraction of the resources Blizzard has at its disposal. The idea that a company of 5,000 employees can’t figure it out is pretty sus.
That ship kinda already sailed though is the problem. We have the bronto, we have mail boxes, we have mog mounts, we have vendor mounts, we have remote bank access.
Like the ship sailed a LONG time ago if someone wants to be anti social they can well be in wow anywhere they want.
I mean I definitely agree that if anyone can do it I mean shouldn’t blizzard? But again, they are a business and it still needs to be a good business decision to dump resources into, and I’m sure they take into account all of this when deciding on a huge project to attack. But, I mean that’s the latest interview we have about it so. Regardless of what people assume, that’s what was said.
However, the game is still social with all of these features. If people are concerned that the game will be less social because of housing, then all I’m saying is don’t give them the ability to do city tasks inside of the house.
Now dont take this the wrong way, because im with you, im for more social things in teh game, however. WoW has had its social aspect gutted some time ago.
We have cross realm groups, phasing, shards, regional AH, battle groups with everyone, merc mode, ect ect, social aspect of wow got killed a long time ago and is a cold rotting corpse at this point.
Rooting for social aspects in teh game is like rooting for the corpse, its dead jim.
exactly!
cosmetic only and a free hearth every 20 minutes like the garrison.
How many of us run dungeons FOR mogs? lol.
I ran BFA dungeons I hated strictly to get mogs I wanted. No mogs and Id not have bothered.
So some cool stuff can drop from dungeons, including as you or someone else posted…literally having paintings to put up on the wall of dungeon bosses we’ve beaten.
a LOT of players would get a kick out of that, including some of the self proclaimed housing haters, lol.