Right-click report was one of the best features added during Vanilla.
Until that feature was added there was no easy way to report gold sellers and leveling service spammers and get their spam off the screen. It was horrible!
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Please consider turning this feature off.
No.
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The feature isn’t the question. The question is the logistics behind the feature.
Oof- definitely wasn’t in Vanilla.
We’ve gotten that before. 
Good reply, though!
We’ve gotten that before.
Good reply, though!
The reasons for the system have been laid out ad nauseum for years. We both, as adults, understand and accept there are rules you need to follow, there are rules of conduct and chat you agreed to.
When those are breached, players report them and they are actioned accordingly.
There are checks and balances to player behaviour. There have to be.
You are 110% correct! However those report should be reviewed by someone for legitimacy. A bot dishing out punishments of any sort/degree based on volume is not okay.
A ban or suspension can only be implemented by GM, it cannot happen automatically from the reporting system. It does seem like in some cases the auto-squelch may DC the person when it takes effect, but even that hasn’t been confirmed that I’ve seen.
Except Blizzard’s CoC is vague enough that it sweeps half of the english language as potential harassment. This means only Blizzard has the knowledge of what is officially allowed and not allowed communicated in game. Yet players, who do not have Blizzard’s CoC interpretation, are expected to moderate other player’s gameplay experience based on their personal interpretation of the CoC.
This is the conflict.
I will never support a guilty before proven innocent RCR system. Fixing the system is as simple as:
- Remove the “disconnect” experienced once reported.
- Remove the “silence” (all chat extremely limited) that is automatically applied after the disconnect.
- Keep a temporary “squelch” only for the specific chat channel.
- Have Blizzard GM’s review the situation and administer the appropriate punishment, if any.
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Bots don’t assign punishment beyond limiting communication. I absolutely understand that in classic that can be a major impediment, and to me that is the strongest argument against this system. But any events where someone gets squelched gets reviewed by a real live person to assign whatever action is necessary.
However those report should be reviewed by someone for legitimacy
You going to pay for GMs to be on duty 24/7 to review all logs and reports as they come in?
Thats what you are asking for.
Except Blizzard’s CoC is vague enough that it sweeps half of the english language as potential harassment.
Then dont click “I agree to it”, dont install the game.
Yet players, who do not have Blizzard’s CoC interpretation, are expected to moderator other player’s gameplay experience based on their personal interpretation of the CoC.
If I see Joe Smith ingame swearing his or her head off, they will be reported. Why should we not?
It was asked once before why the CoC was “vague”.
Their reply?
To avoid “armchair lawyers” looking for “loopholes”.
- Remove the “silence” (all chat extremely limited) that is automatically applied after the disconnect.
No.
I dont know how many times I have to say this, but let me be clear:
There WILL NOT be "one rule for live and one for Classic"
It. will. not. happen.
Deal with it or dont play.
Dont like the code of conduct? Dont install the game.
Dont like the rules? Dont click “I agree” to them.
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is swearing against the CoC? I was always under the assumption that the existence of the profanity filter meant swearing was allowed? as long as you aren’t harassing someone?
If you were then you were sadly misinformed.
is swearing against the CoC?
Yes. For the last fifteen years.
I was always under the assumption that the existence of the profanity filter meant swearing was allowed?
This is a joke, right?
To quote innumerable community managers and GMs.
“The filter is not a license to swear like a demented drunken fishwife”
as long as you aren’t harassing someone?
It is not permitted , it never was permitted , you can and will be banned for it.
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lmao thank you for answering my question.
lmao thank you for answering my question.
I am at a loss to understand how the hell you ever got the idea that you were allowed to swear at others ingame.
No one is that naive.
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I think so, but I also think that some of the reporting options are not there. Never had to report an alliance toon as I don’t interact with them in game.
Just so you guys know, the squelch is an emergency measure, designed to shut down something fast if enough reports are filed in a short period of time. It also flags a GM to take a look at it.
I mean I dont mean literally swearing at others…like if your group wiped and someone in chat says “wtf happened” … technically thats swearing… I feel like I see people saying wtf constantly in wow actually.
It’s kinda of a touchy subject. In this game you can be reported for anything, it’s up to a GM to decide if it’s an issue.
I know I have been reported many times in game, but I never have been suspended or silenced.
To be safe, don’t run your mouth and you’ll be fine.
I will never support a guilty before proven innocent RCR system. Fixing the system is as simple as:
Then:
When Classic comes and the terms and conditions come up, click “I do not agree”
Because if you DO click “I agree”, you then dont get to be a “rules lawyer” with your “interpretation of what the rules should consist of”.
Blizzards games, Blizzards rules. Accept it or leave.
Code of conduct says that unacceptable behavior is determined based on player reports and judgement by blizzard. It doesn’t have a list of do’s and don’t’s
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It doesn’t have a list of do’s and don’t’s
Disruption / Harassment: Engage in any conduct intended to disrupt or diminish the game experience for other players, or disrupt operation of Blizzard’s Platform in any way, including:
Disrupting or assisting in the disruption of any computer used to support the Platform or any Game environment. ANY ATTEMPT BY YOU TO DISRUPT THE PLATFORM OR UNDERMINE THE LEGITIMATE OPERATION OF ANY GAME MAY BE A VIOLATION OF CRIMINAL AND CIVIL LAWS.
Harassment, “griefing,” abusive behavior or chat, conduct intended to unreasonably undermine or disrupt the Game experiences of others, deliberate inactivity or disconnecting, and/or any other activity which violates Blizzard’s Code of Conduct or In-Game Policies.
and
B. Rules Related to “Chat” and Interaction With Other Users.
Communicating in-game with other Users and Blizzard representatives, whether by text, voice or any other method, is an integral part of the Game and the Service and is referred to here as “Chat.” When engaging in Chat, you may not:
(i) Transmit or post any content or language which, in the sole and absolute discretion of Blizzard, is deemed to be offensive, including without limitation content or language that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful, sexually explicit, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable, nor may you use a misspelling or an alternative spelling to circumvent the content and language restrictions listed above;
Aehl, You know this is a discussion thread, right? Generated feedback based on criticism of valid arguments? You aren’t really contributing anything worth noting with ultimatums and a bad attitude. You’re welcome to keep trying, though!
Let me help you kickstart the topic again- Automated punishments, such as squelches, is not a healthy alternative to Blizzards campaign of reducing customer service resources available to players. If a customer service agent has to intervene on a punishment because it was falsely validated, then there is a problem. This instance has been proven 10-fold and you are welcome to search player’s feedback.
Classic is a game heavily dependent on open communication. Classic content cannot be conquered or played without speaking, unlike Retail. That is one notable difference, and therefore an automated squelch, that is not justified, is not acceptable for even a moment. Especially when game play time is not reimbursed to the player-victim. The volume of players affected isn’t important- what’s important is proper customer service.
Just so I’m crystal clear too, I am in full support of jerk players being reported for breaking rules. I will do my part and report players legitimately affecting game play through their behavior, as I’m sure anyone else would. The difference is, 5-6 players reporting a single player in high volume over a short period of time shouldn’t result in automated punishments until further investigation is conducted. That’s guilty until proven innocent, and I think it’s relevant to keep that topic on the table for open and healthy discussion.
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