Lethality Back stab stealth nerf?

You should delete this post and disappear. How embarrassing.

Are you sure youā€™re not a troll rogue, too?

That was an awfully mean thing to say.

The situation I recreated was my damage against a player, compared to my damage against a clothy mob in Scholomance. With might buff in Scholo I hit for 763 back stab crits without might, and lower 800 crits with might. I dueled my warrior guildy without might and hit him for 900 back stab crits, and with shout I hit for 1000+ crits which is more of where I should be in against NPC mobs. The warrior was also 60 and we even tested it while he was in defensive stance and I still hit harder.

I actually tested this against Ras Frostbringer and gave him 4 combo expose armor. It only made my crits go up by like 60.

You would need to recreate all the debuffs the original mob had

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What happens if you click on your profile and ā€œChange Characterā€, then choose your rogue again? I have to do that every single time I level.

We were with a prot pally, 2 mages, and a holy priest during this Scholo run. Besides might Im not sure what else could be used to increase my damage against a mob.

The two posters that tried to troll my post 4 hours ago didnā€™t read the whole post. I updated my character mid post. Also the undead mage that tried to troll has a track record of being very toxic and trolly in other forum posts, so best to just ignore him.

What specific mobs was it? A trash mob in scholo is going to have a massive difference in armor/mitigation when compared to a boss in mc

The mob was one of the casters that can fear you at the start of scholo.

Did you try it again on that same mob? Sorry if you already said this but Iā€™m being too lazy to read through

I was only able to get a 2 combo point expose on the scholo mob and it didnā€™t make much difference. I had the pally give me might on the same mob which I tested this against and only gave me about a 60 damage increase.

Wait you transfered off Stalagg? Good to know I can take you off my KoS list then!

Have fun wherever you are now :slight_smile:

Not like you had many Alliance to even make a KoS list with since 80% of us transferred off lol

For some reason I never really felt that imbalance while leveling. You only made it to my KoS list after all because you were rolling around in a 5 stack in Tanaris murdering Hordies questing by the Pirates and Waste Wander mobs, while I couldnā€™t rally more than 1 or 2 other people in the whole zone who needed those quests to fight back.

I have a nagging suspicion that while the server balance was originally slightly in favor of the Horde, the Wowhead Census was grossly inaccurate and ended up triggering a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Oh whales! :whale:

I know this might sound strange, but I believe back in beta vanilla a bug with ammo for the range weapon increased the melee damage for rogues and warriors, did you happen to change your ranged weapon into a throwing weapon and lose the + damage on the ammo? in case this bug has re-appeared and youā€™re getting bonus damage from ammo?

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Iā€™m currently using Doomshot ammo for my Black Crow Cross bow which I didnā€™t change out during my testing. I did get a new bow and tried it out though, but immediately went back to Black Crow.

Kings and might along with other raid consumables? I would waste a Juju and a lungjuice on a raid, not on a Scholo run

Ah yeah I remember that. Thats was fun, I remember the leader saying to only kill the competition. Good times.

I think Iā€™ll test out my damage next time I raid to see if I was just going crazy. Cant test it till Tuesday though because raid ID locks out in Vanilla.