Indeed. Too bad they all look atrocious.
Like we’ve said before, we can already do skimpy. We are only asking for the ability to do it properly.
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Kalvax, I think it is great that so many people who spend time in forums are applauding Blizzards change on hiding gear as a transmog choice. I, however, do not agree that breasts are not part of the reproductive system and as such, should not be off limits to the pants modesty and/or rating considerations. I am not enthused about increasing the numbers of a bunch of grown men running around with inflatable blow-up dolls trying to pretend that they respect or acknowledge the female gender choice that they rolled as their puppets. This step towards an x-rated cartoon fantasy game has made me seriously take my kids off my Blizzard Christmas list. There is a perceptual difference between a bra and swimsuit and after 47 years of asking society to respect women and not objectify them, I am offended by this biased choice to be modest with the male slot on armor but careless on the women’s. Tacky sex may sell to tacky people, as a point that a guildie referenced (sex sells). You can tell me this is just a fantasy game, but frankly, predators tune into their fantasies right before they start their prowl and their prowl becomes the roll play of their fantasies. Really, Blizz? After 10 years of managing guilds for free on your behalf, I am pretty much packing it in. Flame all you want, players. And for female players who think this is a non-issue, you weren’t here before the laws protecting women were enacted that I have seen in my lifetime and have no idea what hard-won boundaries you are giving up freely in these types of choices. And as an example, stalking wasn’t illegal in the early 80s. I do believe that games change the way society reacts to each other. I can only vote with my subscriptions… all of them I contribute towards. And my vote is to exclude hiding chest pieces. Your artists should never have planned hidden tattoo designs and this is not the way to correct their error.
Gloves and bracers, sure. Pants…no…
You are right… the entire concept of fighting a battle without any armor at all is losing all credibility and seriousness. Pants and chests should seriously have been left up to the players to find gear that suits their injury risks. Who wants to see a myriad of female puppets prepared for sacrifice to the sword wars?
Let people have 100% free reign over their mogs. #freethemogs
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It would be better to have the artists design a few transmog pants that take into account the slits in the AQ robes or make them easier to farm (drop rates) than turn a bunch of 13+ players loose with no pants. Same with chest designs that allow for the tattoos that were not properly planned to show up under armor. This game is not centered around Goldshire… I hope.
Is this a distraction from bugs not being fixed? I personally, would much rather have the Devs spend their time and effort on fixing what is broken in the game, especially if doing this “hide” thing takes resources away from actually fixing what’s broken.
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agreed! please, let me hide those options!
on my clothie there’s dresses i like to wear but the pants ruin the mog, and some mogs dont go well with gloves/bracers
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honestly, if people really wanted to be max naked they could just run around without any gear on anyways, most people who want the hide x function in transmogs is usually because that piece of gear is not working with the rest of their mogs
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I agree that this is an issue. However, instead of hiding pants and opening players up to a world of immature 13-year-olds with toons running naked through out the game, how about the recommendation simply be for the artists to design a few pants that work well with the AQ gear and shirts that work well with the tats … and let the players farm them like they do every other piece of their mog sets. Then we aren’t opening the Pandora’s x-rated game box.
This is excellent news. Being able to hide all equipment slots except pants will give us a lot more freedom to craft our own styles. Though I’d really appreciate the option to at least have robes hide legs for things like the Lovely Dresses from the Valentine’s holiday event (or a cosmetic loin cloth that isn’t visible through the Lovely Dresses would be great).
I’d also like to put my vote in for being able to use holiday transmogs outside of holiday events. A lot of them, like the witch hats, are perfectly reasonable for people to just wear all the time in a setting like WoW.
Also, I want to give the dev team a huge thank you for adding chest only versions for some of the robe sets in BfA. I’ve been disappointed with a lot of the cloth sets from past content for not having this option. I’ll get the legs for a cloth set and most of the time I’m like , “Oh, those would be nice if I could cut the matching robes off at the waist. ![:disappointed:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/disappointed.png?v=6" ":disappointed:")
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Having the option to wear a non-robe version of a set chest piece like what I’m wearing at time of posting is so much better. Keep doing this please!
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I wanna be able to hide my left boot so when people ask me about it I can say I lost it somewheres.
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As I noted in my post, there are some non-immature reasons to allow hiding of pants. Like when pants are visible through gaps in robes that are meant to show skin. It looks off and kinda ruins the outfit.
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tl:dr, there’s always been skimpy armor in game and I don’t see a problem with it.
Um…sorry. I’m a 50 something, lived through a lot of those changes, and I still see this as a non-issue. If you’re so uncomfortable looking at female characters running around in their undies, you might want to consider the fact that they cover up more than most bikinis do these days. And no, I don’t consider there to be a difference between bikinis and underwear in this example. If they had underwear details that would be different, but they don’t.
Also, I’d like to point out that the fight was also to be able to wear skimpy clothes in public without being a target. Quite frankly, it was nice to be able to show some skin instead of having to dress like a nun. As for stalking…I was stalked before and no, my stalker wasn’t a gamer, he was an ex-coworker. So how does that fit in this narrative?
I would also like to point out that there has always been skimpy armor in game. And that armor doesn’t cover much more than the “underwear” our toons wear. So you can’t really say that this is a step towards an x-rated cartoon. Its always been in game.
And last but not least…I’ve played a number of games that do have body sliders. And outside a few creeps, most tend to use those sliders responsibly. In fact, it would be possible to have a slider that goes smaller and tastefully larger.
If you chose to be offended about this and are quitting over this, more power to you. Voting with your money is the only way to catch a company’s attention. I’ve all ready quit, albeit for a different reason. And you may find my reason ridiculous, so don’t think I’m trying to talk you out of your opinion. What I wanted to do was address some of the comments you made.
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The pants have to go too! I want my rogue to be able to pull off a Valera like look without random fur bitts and a bad leather leg staps that match with nothing!
At least make a black underwear mog for all.
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Ikr? Leather is the armor type that suffers the most with the lack of good looking skimpy leggings.
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You can buy it in Dazar’alor actually, vendor is near the Island Table IIRC. Make a trial Horde character to buy it if you don’t have it.
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I find it strange people actually get off on skimpy transmogs.
I prefer the real thing over some cartoon illusion, but hey… that’s just me.
Seems kinda creepy.
I do enjoy running around in my underwear for all to see. But does it serve any purpose other than to gross people out or make a few people chuckle?
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If you already quit, I am not sure why you are reading the forums or expressing an opinion as to what is reasonable in the game. Not that you don’t have the right to. Just wondering why you are hanging around. I have seen all of your arguments before and my issue has to do with taking the situation yet another step down the hill by allowing people to just hide the chest completely instead of farming difficult mogs and simply showing the bra. My mom said I could smoke as a teen, so I smoked more. Slides are slides. I ended up disabled with COPD.
Glad you are 50. I am 65 and my start point with this has to do with the disrespect towards women and boundaries. At 50, you probably were still to young to realize that the stalking laws were only passed in the '80s so if you had any potential of police protection from that co-worker stalker, thank me and my era for pushing for it. I don’t want some of these things backsliding because we ease off on precautions or don’t teach the kids respectable boundaries.
I also do not believe that there is a clear wall between our internal fantasies and the real world, especially if we immerse in our fantasies in game regularly. Plus, I am kind of tired of normalizing things that are starting to degrade our society. I am seeing way too much of those alt-truths change things. I think gaming companies should be held accountable for what they allow and refuse to buy in on their argument that parents are the ones that should monitor their kids’ playtimes. In a game this sophisticated, parents would have to spend a quite a bit of play time to determine the difference between occasional skimpy choices of wear or beer drops with other players versus a kid surreptitiously doing so when they weren’t in the room. My son’s a game designer and we have not come to an agreement here on what his ethical responsibilities are, but his kids don’t play wow.
I find the forums a difficult place to visit. I find a lot of people cheering for some change that they think will make the game awesome, and yet here you are representing agreement when you don’t even play the game. I have to ask how much that is true for many forum posters. Having paid and played the game consistently for 10 years without breaks during the slow seasons, I think I have put my money where my mouth is and deserve the right to express my disagreement without being trolled… which usually happens and is why I and other players don’t bother. Forums seem to become the troll games for many posters.
Just expressing my opinion as a long term player.