Mostly because early season it’s much easier to be in the top percentage something than late, also depending on how much you can play/when you can play. Not sure how that would be worked around.
I think a simple solution to something like that would be to have a sort of “preseason” where, for all intents and purposes, the season has begun (you can obtain rating, purchase new gear etc) but rewards such as titles aren’t yet awarded. This could last anywhere from 2-4 weeks, and would allow players to push hard, and jockey for position for when rewards inevitably “turn on”.
I feel this would keep people from obtaining gladiator in some lame way such as simply being the first person to win 2-3 games in a row or something stupid.
I don’t try to get legend tbh. Only if I’m in the mood to play and get it by accident.
When the uncap conquest + add boxes (usually 7-8 weeks in) is when you would end the preseason.
I’m going the other direction
legend should require 300 wins
gladiator should require 150 wins
r1 eligibility should be 150 wins
that’s gonna be unpopular for both the casual crowd and the people who come in and get top 50 ladder with 80 wins
but it’s better for the game if you’re incentivized to play as early or as much as possible or we just end up dead ladders
right now the only people who actually play are the people striving for a goal or the people making a couple bucks on twitch
pretty lame for the game overall really
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Idk this is sort of the case with blitz and nobody really pushes 
Or maybe it’s just people being all split.
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I think the issue is that in blitz and shuffle there’s sort of literally no point
If you made glad 3x the wins the same people are still going to play for it
If there was literally any reward for playing either of the other 2 brackets even at a massive time sink I’d play them
That goes all the way down though; if the elite set was 25 wins at 1800 people would still play for it
They would just play more
Incentivizing the path of least resistance and then not artificially padding the time played requirement with it was easily one of their biggest errors imo
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Ye, and play another 200 games for it which is probably a good thing.
Mhm. 
I keep getting the itch to do legend wins but just learned that I already had the same reward from just playing blitz so it’s like lol lmao.
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I’m honestly not opposed. I know a lot of people in MMOs say they don’t like grinds, but then immediately quit if they don’t have a grind. I know I’m WAY less likely to play if I’m not working towards a goal.
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Wow players are weird it’s like they all play to fill the bar and want bar to be smaller then immediately are aimless and quit if there’s no bar to fill. This is sort of why I thought SL gearing wasn’t a pure negative as everybody saw it.
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Ugh, I don’t know, that’s sounds like an immense chore. With these que times 100 wins already feels like a lot. Legend is my only goal each season and I enjoy hitting it and then just chilling the rest of the season playing alts. I actually tanked from 2700 to 2400 recently just trying to grind out wins as fast as possible because I was ready for it to be done lol.
At 2700 I couldn’t even get a que most of the day if I tried. I think a lot of people wouldn’t even bother if it was 300 with current que times, which I don’t think is good for the game.
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Not a good reason. You could say this exact same thing about glad imo.
There is no excuse for the reward for Legend/Strategist being so bad, e.g., a pennant, so please don’t bother trying to make one lol.
You can argue all you want that the reward shouldn’t be as prestigious as the gladiator mount since it doesn’t require making a team, building synergy, scheduling time, etc., but there is absolutely no excuse for the reward being a pennant lol.
Even if they are relatively easier to achieve, obtaining Legend/Strategist is still objectively difficult content for roughly 99% of the playerbase + harder to get than probably most if not all pve content that rewards a nice mount.
Legend and Strategist deserve respective mount rewards, period.
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Had a dude in a 3k eots willingly cap the flag when we had 2 bases.
Idk if the mode deserves anything more than a bit more honor/conq.
Then they might have to add a reward to make it worth spending the time 
The only reward that would be worth it is free game time equivalent to the time spent in que 
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Yo pay healers with game time
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at the end of the day I don’t think anyone (or most) care about how many wins it takes to get a reward. The issue imo is that there are no rewards for Legend/Strategist aside from the pennant, which I’d say is not something that inspires queueing to push for it [e.g., I suppose some sweaty people might want to pad their checkpvp profile/feats of strength, but at the end of the day, a temporary title + pennant gives me zero reason to push for Legend/Strategist (If I get either, it just means that I happened to get enough wins by playing the game naturally and enjoying it, but has nothing to do with desiring the reward itself)].
You 3v3 mains are so cooked lol. You’re always going to have a more or less dead game mode until Blizzard implements solo/duo queue functionality, especially when the only ideas you guys come up with are extremely anti-casual, elitist, and/or toxic towards casuals/newer players (or basically anyone that isn’t a sweaty neckbeard hopping in disc every season and scheduling queue times to grind out mid mounts (excluding DF S1) that quite frankly haven’t required gladiator skill level since pre BfA).
No wonder half the high end/r1 pvp population just plays classic wow now lol omega LUL. People would rather watch the same boring pve grind than watch anything wow pvp related 
Props to the last 2 remaining wow pvp streamers holding it down (e.g., Venruki and Supatease). I can hardly believe they haven’t swapped over to hardcore. I guess they don’t really need the money/care about the money/exposure/growth of their channels that much.
We should all be thanking Blizzard for shuffle and blitz tbh, as without it, I don’t think wow pvp streams would exist and/or I think even the most loyal of wow pvp streamers (e.g., in particular the ones streaming it at the highest level (such as Ven and Supa)) would have a job 
They def clockin’ in. Gotta pay ‘em. Wonder how many subs they get back if queue times improve (the biggest issue causing unsubs).
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both are just personality streamers that pander to 1600 redditors 90% of the time
There’s plenty of actual streamers streaming actual queues
You just don’t care because you need a parasocial relationship to be invested because you don’t have any friends and you don’t care about actual gameplay because you wouldn’t know how to process it while watching anyways
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I’m assuming you mean the handful or two of guys with next to no viewership, most not even using a cam or talking, who just queue up for their friends and maybe a handful of others?
I’d argue that if you have no personality, then you aren’t an actual streamer lol. In any case, I’m glad that we can agree that the streamers you’re referencing as “actual streamers” indeed have no personality.
In any case I apologize, I should have said, the last remaining successful streamers [e.g., $$$ wise] that still regularly play wow pvp (funny enough, they hardly ever stream 3s, almost always shuffle/blitz lol).
Generally speaking you aren’t wrong [e.g., it’s just a game after all], but I actually do want the game to be better. I just have a better idea as to what things would actually help, while you and your buddies only ever contribute what essentially equates to “hur hur 3s so much skill all other brackets meme bad players, only 3s get trophy”.
projecting much, or just triggered (or both)?
admittedly, I don’t have any remaining wow friends that care about serious pvp (all the ones I had quit the game entirely). I don’t mind it, as my experience/impression with the community that takes wow pvp super seriously is that it’s largely (not entirely) a bunch of toxic manchildren still living with their parents + guys that get deeply offended at anything/everything that isn’t praise for the game mode they’ve wasted most of their prime obsessing over [e.g., take your reply for instance].
As an adult, I’d prefer to stay away from/avoid your kind as much as humanly possible 
I don’t have an unhealthy obsession over it as your reply seems to suggest that you do, but on the level that I’d like to see more frequent tuning, a better reward structure, more participation, an influx of new players, etc., I certainly do care about the actual gameplay.
You’re not wrong though about the processing. There is so much clutter and information overload going on nowadays in wow, that I can’t follow most of the nuances of rank 1 level pvp, but even if I could, I still wouldn’t watch 99% of people stream 3s [e.g., I personally don’t find it to be a good use of my time to watch no-personality andies play video games].
The only two teams that are entertaining to watch/don’t put me to sleep are The Move and Echo, and I guess honorable mention to F tier for the off-meta comps they bring and make work.
Now. Who else is mad? Come at me and tell me how good you are and how bad I am. Let those baseless insults flow (which I’ll presume are projection). Get that weight off your chest lil pups
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