Leeway was in Vanilla but (Latency had a part)

Here comes the boom

13m05s to 13m10s are your stamps. Enjoy.

This is pre 1.12 btw.

Depends what “front stabbing” is. If it’s the act of stabbing someone from Stealth, I’m pretty sure you could only do it from behind until one of the later expansions.

If there’s 1.12 footage of it working another way it’s likely from a private server and should be disregarded.

Explain what is happening here… if you can… because you are wrong… this is not leeway…

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Eh, the first stamp yeah is debatable. Just shows a warrior applying hamstring from outside the 5 yard rangish.

The second one is obvious. Rogue is walking away from the warrior far outside melee range, Warrior zerk rages out of gouge and moves towards the rogue and gets an auto attack off from outside melee.

If Crippling was 50% instead of 70%, it would have continued to happen as well. The Rogue, not moving as slowly, was able to get out of even leeway range.

Again, that is only 1yd or less leeway on crippled targets. Classic is 2-3 yard leeway.

AND in all of these vids u never see any special abilities/skills being available for use while in the leeway ranges… only auto attacks.

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I’ve already shown it would have ridiculous range at times with the first video. People saying “yeah thats 2.0 though!” don’t get that the pre-patch didn’t change a thing regarding this mechanic, and if it did, I’d like to see proof.

I’ve shown video evidence pre BC that mimics what Blizzard is saying. I found the second video cause why not, I like a challenge.

Have you seen the leeway they are getting in classic… melee attacks at 11+ yards…

This video is not even close to that distance.

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Got a video of front stabbing cause I was never able to do it in vanilla unless I was lagging like a mofo.

First one does, and its a legit video from 2006.

I like how he’s calling out Warriors about leeway, wants front stabbing, and I’m showing him videos where the Rogue is eating Warriors for lunch, despite getting attacked because of leeway anyways.

He won’t even explain what “front stabbing” is.

Basically using backstab while facing the front of your target.

Oh. So, the exact mechanic that was NOT in Vanilla but added in a later expansion.

Why does he want this again?

Most people confuse it from pservers.

Kinda like the sit crits proccing crit talents. Which was doable earlier in vanilla but later changed. In classic it works if you stand right as you get hit/crit, cause the game registers you as standing but the crit is from sitting. So basically an exploit, or “clever use of game mechanics” depending on the type of person you are. On pservers it works always.

Ah.

So, he’s arguing for a gamebreaking exploit to make it into the game.

I just want to see some front-stabbing videos.

I’ve done my due diligence here. Its on you guys to prove Blizzard is wrong when they tell you its working as it should be.

Not surprising the goal posts keep getting shoved down the field every time a goal is made.

Mostly for solo leveling.
You kinda go into your target while strafing and you can then backstab their front.

“Backstab their front.”

So a mechanic that never actually existed in Classic… is what this guy wants in Classic…

Why should we support this again?

It didn’t work like that in Vanilla. I was dumb enough to stick to a backstab build for leveling my Rogue the entire way. I hated the combat tree, HATED it. So boring. If it worked that way back then I would have definitely found out about it.