The rush mentality that became of Retail was ultimately its downfall because Blizzard catered to it. People got so focused on the only experience being max level end game, and completely discount the entire leveling experience as a waste of time. Rushing became so focused on retail literally the end-game content became “RUSH THROUGH THIS AS FAST AS YOU CAN SO YOU GET BETTER LOOTS”
I see a lot of people trying to bring this same mentality to Classic WOTLK. People complaining about it taking to long from 70-80 so they need to reduce the XP or make quests give you more XP. Here are some words of advice. Slow down, take your time, and just smell the roses.
This version of the game isn’t retail. This version of the game has a “end point” unlike retail or when WOTLK was retail. I get it, you will always have those that play the game like it’s a fulltime job, and more power to them. But for most of the community (myself included) we have lives outside of WoW. I’m finding it to be this crowd that just wants things handed to them and to rush to end-game so they can stay current with the fulltime job WoW players.
Just stop… Stop trying to compete against someone that can invest more time in this game than you can. You won’t win, and ultimately you shouldn’t. Instead, find a group of like-minded players. Create a guild, create schedules that work for you and the others. Stop taking this game so seriously and just have fun!
I remember when TBC was retail I was in the most amazing guild ever. Were we the best? Not by any means. We struggled to clear Kara… But we had a blast trying and it honestly felt like a family away from my family in RL. These are the memories I cherish most. This whole sense has been destroyed in both Classic and retail due to mindset mentality changes of “We have to be the best” or “I expect to be the best with minimal effort or dedication.”
Are you deliberately ignoring that the rush mentality is just as much alive here as it is in the retail version of the game?
Oh. Good. You’re not.
I do like how you have pinned it on outsiders. Them and us. Them and us.
I’d argue that this expansion was where retail began. Wrath is the missing link between old school WoW and modern day WoW.
You make some valid points like finding other like minded individuals, joining a good guild, slowing down and just enjoying the game… but what if the rush is what they enjoy?
I didn’t ignore anything. However, WOTLK was at the tipping point before Blizzard actually started catering to it.
These two versions of the game generally have to different mentalities. no?
This is purely subjective and I’m not about to “argue” with anything.
Then let them rush… This game has ALWAYS had people that would rush the content. But as I said, Blizzard didn’t start catering to this until later on. Literally, almost every thing about end-game retail PvE is about rushing. If you aren’t rushing, you aren’t doing it right.
Lol I just downloaded ; Questie , so I could do the quests now.
Instead of smelling the poo.
Mining and skinning to 375 on with the leveling…63 this morning or is it 62?
Have fun.
Despite being level 80 I agree completely. I went semi-fast the first go around, but I’ll take much longer on my alt. The zones are all quite beautiful and deserve to be adventured on foot.
If I’m rushing in any way it’s so I can get to endgame. To me, leveling in any MMO is the worst part and the real game doesn’t begin until you can start developing your character at max.
Not really unless you try to fabricate a divider with only assumption and no evidence; which you have done.
The two populations are probably more intermingled than you’d care to admit because then you wouldn’t have some amorphous group to blame for the things you see that you don’t like.
Them and us.
You’re entire post is your opinion and is subjective so I guess I’d ask; if you aren’t here to argue subjective opinions then why did you make your post and why are you responding to those who might not agree with it?
I find it humorous that in the response immediately prior to this one you said you weren’t going to argue this point and then argued it.
I am not trying to take this out of context because I understand that it was said as a criticism of the retail version of modern wow. My point is that this mentality is inherent in both versions of the game and it isn’t because of the “retailers” coming in and ruining it.
It’s because the classic community and the retail community probably overlap quite a bit and that the two populations are effectively the exact same.
Probably good advice for some people on the fence. Thanks for voicing your opinion.
A good chunk of us live for the grind, the competitive rush, thriving in the chaos. It’s what drives us. And i hope you’re able to enjoy the game as well.
Its not the players but Blizzard who choose to open up raiding 1 week after release. By the time a good number of people hit 80s they will open up Ulduar. Blizz is just as responsible for this. I hope WoTLK will last 24 months from start to finish and they roll out the next tier with a lot more space in between.
As Shudder noted I think WotLK is the sort of bridge where the mentalities start to become the same.
I’d argue that the very beginnings of that shift can be seen in TBC too, but WotLK was when it really got under way. The game increasingly became about endgame, dungeons were completely facerolled even back in the day, and aggressive catch up mechanics existed to try to get people into the latest patch as fast as possible.
Things changed in Wotlk c from those times.
Fear of missing out is really strong, maybe because many more players raids now, not like back then when only 10% raided, so they fear for raid spot.
Myself, I did raid pretty harcore back then, realm firsts and so on, but in classic I took casual approach and found most casual server and casual guild there.
To my surprise, that casual 40 player guild managed to have 30 players being level 80 on day 4 since launch. I know there are different measures for “casualness”, but in my book that is not casual play, not even close.
Same happened in start of tbcc, another casual guild had 2 kara teams on day 5 with attunement.
What can you do?
But pushing myself to improve, get better gear and go faster and faster and see how much I can handle before I break is how I enjoy the game as a whole. I don’t care how fast or slow other people are going, I’m competing against myself
Personally, the point of rushing isn’t to keep up with sweats, it’s to get through leveling as quickly as possible because it’s a 40-60 hour long chore I have to do to get to the fun part of the game. I hated leveling through wrath when I did it 15 years ago and I still hate it today if I’m being honest.
