Learn from Oracle

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Let’s give some other healers some proactive mitigation or prevention.

It’s a healer spec that is exactly what I’ve been asking for — plenty of control over the party. They don’t use a defensive? NBD, I’ll use one for them. Not stacked? Who cares. Atonement will fix it.

And the best part? The damage sucks. It sucks so bad, it’s not really worth trying to min/max it. You can focus on healing, focus on shielding. Focus on what’s targeting who to make sure they’re covered. It’s so peaceful. Filling globals with damage is just nice, not a necessity.

I suspect what we’ll actually see oracle gutted because we don’t like healers enjoying themselves, but man — it would be great if, instead, we leaned into that.

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The thing is it isn’t even the oracle healers enjoying themselves so much. It’s the rest of the party. Oracle is allowing dps to play how they want to play without having to worry about defensives and sudden death from random trash mobs. DPS get to focus on their damage instead of staying alive. Oracle is highlighting one of the biggest problems with M+. Most players don’t like how much M+ has shifted from damage to survivability. When given the option to bring a healer that let’s them not worry so much about keeping themselves alive, that’s what they’re going to do.

But I also suspect that we’re going to see Oracle taken out back and shot. Or we’ll see a big atonement nerf that hurts Voidweaver more than Oracle.

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I like not having this on lots of my healers, if I want to play disc or druid I would play those.

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Geeze, don’t give them ideas, that sounds exactly like what Blizz would do.

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M+ is quite interesting in this regard, because, as you go up the key levels, the burden of survival shifts from healer to DPS to tank.

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Hate to be the pessimist, but I think it’s less likely that blizzard has just happened upon some amazing new way of making healers feel good via imaginative gameplay, and more likely that they’re just highly overtuned right now.

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Only change I think they need to make to priests for Oracle is to give them some form of reflective shielding to up their dmg numbers. Everyone seems to agree their dmg is super far behind. Otherwise… I think they are fine as is. Their hps numbers are not super far ahead its just that shields are especially useful in this seasons dungeons. I’d rather see buffs to other healers than nerfs to oracle.

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Druid: Remove cd on iron bark and up mana cost.

Shaman: Ancestral vigor already does similar. Keep that, maybe extend to 20% or so.

Monks overhearing to shield talent (I forget what it’s called) could get a buff. Ditto the chiji shield.

Pally Saved by the light CD removed in favor of a 5s per target debuff.

Beef up shields for holy priest. They literally already have the spell.

Evoker Dream breath could add an absorb or rewind could heal faster or something. Echo overheating could shield.

Go through the lot of them. Not all need to be new setup healers, but having a buffer against one shots would be awesome.

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Bring back original holy paladin mastery!

MW has a lot of ox shields when using conduit of the celestials, but only as fistweaver since all hero talents revolve around melee. Tiger should proc on tiger palm or soothing mist ticks instead of TP or vivify (or all 3). It procs 10x more for fistweavers than casters.

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Eh, Atonement is still a big part of the healing profile for Oracle Disc Priest, just 20% of all healing instead of 50% as with Voidweaver.

It’s still worth making sure you’re maintaining SW:P in ST and spreading SW:P with Penance in AoE.

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Monk would need a dmg reduction external and brez/lust before they are the FOTM healer class

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They were Meta in DF with just big shields. They could definitely unnerf cocoon and chiji shields and it would be fine. They are already wild hps machines and top dps. It wouldn’t take much.

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Agree to disagree, because s2 DF was hpally, and then god comp

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For the first 8 weeks of the second half of season 2 and was even or maybe behind disc priest by the end of the season. But season 3 was all monk all the time, as soon as the raid was over.

Don’t take my word for it

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I wonder which healer everyone is going to freak out about next season. Better level one of each spec so that you can keep up with the meta that everyone seems to care about so very much!

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That’s pretty much the only way to play if you pug keys at a decent enough level.

But this post isn’t about the meta. It’s about the genuine joy of playing a healer who has answers for the dungeon mechanics. Oracle priest is the best designed healer in a long time. S3 DF monk was close too.

I want more of this from blizzard.

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Missing the overheal shield since SL.
So much of resto druid ends up being overheal while pre-ramping hots, having a buildable shield from it or some form of living seed proc on hit storage for it would be so nice right now.

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Living seed I don’t think was popular when it was actually a talent, but it would work well with regrowth in the current game since you cast regrowth a lot more now and it has a very high crit chance a lot of the time.

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Pally - overhealing on beacon targets creates absorb up to 50% of targets life, the 5 person beacon cd loses its mana cost.

Monk - Buff coccoon to have more absorb and a dmg reduction, make the mist spender thing that builds up over time (forget name) instant cast.

Shaman - however you wanna make mana no longer a major problem… make rain instant cast even for not totemic.

Druid - havnt touched in too long no idea. give em something.

I just vote we reward healers knowing dmg is coming and prepping for it instead of nerfing Oracle because they can prep better than anyone else.

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I wish blizz would do something about this. I play a mistweaver, disc, and resto shaman. My shaman is the only healer that has to drink or even carry water in his bags.

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