Layers Gone

They’re gone on my realm and it’s gone back to not being able to do anything as alliance outside of dungeons (if you can get into them). It had calmed down for a while, but it is back to ten to 1 in every farm zone, and literally every herb/ore spot has three horde druids in flightform buzzing around.

Good times. Already lost half my guild to ffxiv.

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what are layers and how do you know which one youre in?

is there a way of moving between them?

Ive seen it mentioned though never understood it

Getting invited to a group will usually move you to their layer, but I don’t think there’s a way to know which one you’re currently on. People used to abuse that pretty badly in classic era to farm mats and aoe grind levels.

NovaWorldBuffs addon will show you which layer you’re on. Target an NPC in a major city and an indicator will appear on your minimap.

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There are addons that tell you.

Yes, someone in a different layer invites you to a group and you move to their layer.

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Should’ve rolled PVE server if you don’t like PVP. I know it’s kinda confusing but PVP means you can attack anyone of the opposite faction without them having to flag themselves.

In a PVE server you decide when you do and don’t participate in PVP. I hope that cleared things up.

Why is it the first instinct of some people to chime in with nonsense like this? It makes me wonder if all the memes and stereotypes are true about gamers and that you actually don’t have any interaction with real people in the real world and have just forgot how to communicate.

I don’t mind pvp. I engage in it from time to time. I am also aware of the difference between a pve and a pvp server, having played the game since 2004.

But when a server has a MUCH larger population than it did in the original iteration (oops- forgot who I was talking to- iteration means version) AND the factions are extremely unbalanced, what you are doing is squeezing many more players into a world it was not built to sustain, and you do not see pvp, you see 10 on 1 ganking.

As from a resource perspective, this many players on one layer basically turns every zone into a virtual Haiti, where there simply is not enough of anything for the server to sustain itself. Which then leads to people buying gold because a stack of terocone is 120 gold, which thus increases the demand for more gold farmers, etc.

Again, this is not rocket surgery you churlish shut-in.

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Oh okay. It just didn’t seem like you did. My apologies

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Can I just… add this quote to my personal collection of retorts?

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Yeah I chuckled even though it was directed at me.

Still wondering why you would have chosen a PvP server if you, as you put it, “engage in it from time to time”. Normally, you choose a PvP server because you wanna PvP most if not ALL the time.

You really should have chosen a PvE server, where you can “engage in it from time to time”.

I can see why others might have thought you did not fully understand what a PvP server was.

Uh, im probably one of the most aggressive people when it comes to pvp and I wouldnt say I chose a pvp server to do it all the time. I doubt theres many who did.

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But I bet you did want to PvP far more than, “from time to time”

I would consider my pvp from time to time.

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Just quit.

Blizzard has done nothing to address faction imbalance and only caters to the Horde.

The more Alliance that quit and leave dead Horde only realms the better.

If you can’t quit, you can always transfer to an Alliance refugee server and pray for the day blizzard actually steps in and fixes faction balance, but I don’t think that will ever happen, they make to much money of the problem they created from all the alliance mass transferring.

Then I would venture to say you might have been better off on a PvE server as well. PvP servers generally come with the acceptance that you are fair game at any time and in any place where PvP is allowed.

To be on such servers is agreeing to these terms.

There are paid character transfers allowed if someone feels they cannot handle the situation on their server, but it is still a fundamental understanding that PvP servers mean PvP is always on and anyone is a target.

Enabling Layers again on PvP servers seems like you might as well switch them to PvE if you can just select to avoid PvP by layer hoping anytime you do not like to be killed.

Yeah and I accept that. Are you seriously trying to tell me how I feel about pvp?

I go out for it from time to time. Doesn’t mean I don’t happily look forward to someone picking a fight with me.

Not in the slightest, I am offering you my opinions, take them or leave them.

FF14 is honestly pretty dope, started the free trial week or so ago.

They have preferred servers to entice people to go to new servers, and I believe you can visit any server that is in your region through the aetheryte system.

Im enjoying ff14 quite a bit. Classes are more fun to play than daresay classes in MoP.