You think the solution is an issue yet don’t offer a fix for the original issue…
Did you miss topic of this thread? and I’d like to know how you can equate “if their temporary solution is already turned off that will end up off for everyone eventually” to “You’re just telling them to add more server options like guild banks and AV1.5” things that are not supposed to happen and have not already been announced is beyond me.
That was in reference to whether there was no interest in it. If there are hundreds of thousands of subs playing Classic WoW, that is REAL MONEY. They will not let that walk away just because Ion said something 2 years ago.
12 million was wrath. But classic was part of that build up. Also, would bet classic had more subs, than retail has now, lol.
The problem with this is that their “fix” also causes plenty of gameplay exploits that can negative impacts on the community as a whole and what people are worried about with implementing their “fix” both options have ups and downs and I’ll i’m arguing is that the player should get to pick what flavor they want.
I’d love to see someone argue that baskin robins should be able to decide you want rum raisin because they said it’s the “FIX FOR YOUR TASTE BUDS” even if you hate raisins and wanted cookies and creme
And also, most importantly to the point, Vanilla actually died. Just six years after its release, there was no remaining trace of the Vanilla world zones. All of the Vanilla dungeons were eventually removed as well.
Iike…"you think you do, but you don’t " or “don’t you guys have phones ?”. We will see where that one leads, too. lol
And now, we have bfa today. Sometimes people do not appreciate what they have until it’s gone .
Yeah, but ultimately I’m speaking to the financial incentives that drive business. That is, after all, why we are getting Classic in the first place.
Is it $$ or IP protection? people say each one so much I can’t remember.
It’s $$.
The IP protection argument is interesting, but the reality is that Blizz said “no no no” to Vanilla servers and consistently used C&D on private servers for years. But when they saw Nostalrius’ activity logs and realized there was a real market for the game…
“Mr. Hazzikostas… TEAR DOWN THIS WALL OF NO”
no, that’s wrong. blizzard already confirmed there will likely be queues. the only thing layering does is let a set number of people more onto the realm before initiating a queue.
because realms can hold more people, being on a realm that has more people is even more desirable, so people are willing to wait in longer queues to get onto the more popular realms. and longer queues on popular realms means tourists are even more likely to pick dead realms.
It’s the right move, and Blizzard is deathly allergic to those.
Debatable. Leaving yourself with a ton of dead servers doesn’t seem like the right move to me. Though I am no game designer.
This wouldn’t cause that, though.
Sure…
Chances are will end with some dead servers even with layering cause people don’t spread evenly. So I really doubt that any alternative isn’t going to cause it in a worse fashion.
Then layering is totally pointless, and they might as well not have layering at all to avoid ruining Classic.
No its not pointless it still mitigates the problem.
Saying its pointless cause it could end the same is like saying dodge is pointless cause the tank will still get hit. It’s there to help mitigate it. 1 or 2 dead servers even with layering is better than half the servers dead without.
Also if it ruins it for you wait til its gone.
how so? just saying they will likely have queues doesn’t some how make them longer than nonlayered ones, if the nonlayer starts making people wait after 3k players and the layered ones can take 4 times the player limit and start making people at 12k, that 12k limit is WAY WAY higher and will naturally have a shorter wait time.
And how does having a few realms without layering for those of who actually want vanilla detract from that?
How would a few realms without layering cause dead realms?
Yeah, I’ll just give up potentially months of progress because Blizzard can’t be bothered to do the right thing.
I’m not going to hamstring myself like that. It’s being removed, so I’m going to begrudgingly suffer through this awful feature until it’s removed.
The game is still ruined, of course, but at least I know it’s being fixed soon™.
What happens with the non layering servers that are capped at 3k have 40% or more of their pop leave?
Hmmmm… sounds to me like all those non sharded/layered servers are probably just guaranteed dead servers.