Yeah nah didn’t really wanna play tonight
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I honestly cant think of 1 good reason to remove layers. No in game benefit (which i think there are none) can possibly justify making the game Literally Unplayable. With 1h Cues by 2:30PM.
Not to mention the Genius Idea of removing layers right as new content is dropped and on an AV weekend. If you spend more than 5h in cues over a month your subscription should be refunded in Full
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Blizzard failed us at release and let far too many people roll on the one server. People on Arugal were screaming for character creation to be locked, but they left it open. They opened new servers, they allowed people to transfer to Arugal.
Blizzard created this monster, not us. Layering is the solution to it and now they have taken that away from us as well.
Blizzard is responsible for this and they’re the only ones who can fix it. Potentially our first AQ raid night is going to be destroyed by queues, all of our hard work thrown away. This is not the way to treat paying customers.
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I have no idea why you would remove layers off this realm, when we had 2 layers, during the opening of the gates at the start of the war event there was a queue even.
Opening xfers to this server has also made many guilds from other oceanic servers xfer to here as the AQ gates are not open on their servers.
With the current queue times many guilds cannot raid with their guild and are having to fill up to 20 spots with pugs due to the length of the queues and disconnects putting players back to the start of a queue or putting them in a queue while they were already in game.
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You are a bumbling clown.
Yep, peak queue happened a while ago most guildies gave up trying to login at the time 3-4 hour queues we’ve called it… and still a queue.
I’ve posted a couple of these topics- basically to spread the annoyance but check the Time stamps, during the night time for Blizzard employees so you’ll understand why we think anyone who “checked the data” may have not done so and instead just said they did… or done it at 3am in our morning… looking at 1/20th our playerbase overnight.
I can’t speak for the other realms or if this is just a push to get paid transfers before Q3 ends but this is gross.
Again if by Wed this isn’t cleared up the mess of the forums there was tonight might spread out, most people on Argual were ready to take further action.
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I don’t know why all you clowns would wait in a queue, while all the other OCE servers don’t have a queue.
Come to yojamba or even better fill up lolstriker!
Why did Blizzard just move all the posts into this thread?
Surely there’s something wrong with paying for a service you can’t access in Australia
#layerarugal
#arugallivesmatter
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Getting 40+ people into a raid week after week is hard enough - forget getting them to log on 6 hours in advance only to have their entire day wasted because not all 40 people could possibly do that. And they’re only going to be holding slots that other guilds need to raid.
The server just fills with people afk’ing in major cities.
It’s progression week and you keep locking our servers up. We need server capacity, and we need to not have to wait 4 weeks for it.
This region needs to have layers to be playable. Stop breaking this game for us. Please.
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Hopefully the threads are no longer needed as they’ve decided to put layers back on.
This 3000+ Queue (6 hours of earth time) is BS, I am sick and tired of this queue, I even tried to be a sensible member of society, today I went and planted a few trees in my backyard, cleaned my driveway, cooked dinner but I was still in the queue, so I did the next best thing, I tucked my wiener between my legs, put on some high heels and lipstick and pretended I was a lady, hoping this would pass the time on the queue but in the 4 hours it took me I am still waiting at 4 hours in the queue instead of 6-4 = 2, tip me plz daddy
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Blizzard please put layers back on, this happened a few months ago and nearly ruined a lot of people’s Wow classic experience. Currently a 2 1/2 hour queue to log in. There goes our raid nights this week just after we’ve opened the AQ gates. Stop being money hungry grubs and look after your current subscribers. We are the 3rd highest pop server, how can you logically think opening xfers and removing layers is viable its honestly baffling.
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First night of having Layers removed from Arugal-US (OCE-PVP) and queues by 7PM Are already looking to hit 2 hours.
This server cannot be layered
I Expect queue timers on big raid nights (Wed/Sunday) to push nearly 6+ Hours by 4PM Just like last time these were removed from the server. We need to re-add these Layers otherwise guilds will just die out and the game/community will start to perish.
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I don’t even know where to begin here. What on earth was going through your mind when deciding to remove the layers from Arugal.
We had layers put back in due to the insane queue times on our server. This was in a time where transfers and new account creation were LOCKED on our server and we still couldnt cope with a single layer.
We have JUST had AQ opened, you have unlocked account creation, opened transfers AND MADE NO IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SERVERS CAPACITY.
I’m honestly beyond words with this decision.
Not to mention we are the only Oceanic server with AQ open so ENTIRE GUILDS are coming in droves from other OCE servers so they have the chance to raid AQ. Well goodluck to them when they have to be logged in by 2pm to make their 8pm raid.
What an absolute joke. Why are you changing what isn’t broken? You made the mistake by offering 1 OCE PvP server pre launch. The majority of serious players planned their guilds and reserverd their characters names here. You now have to adapt and either increase capacity or implement layers permanently. Stop adding and removing layers as you are decimating the economy along the way.
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This is absolutely terrible guys. I’m feeling ripped off. I am paying a monthly subscription, close to $200.00 per year, for a game that I cannot play. New content has just been released and I cannot enjoy it, even though I am actively paying good money for it.
You will be losing another subscriber if this isn’t fixed.
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Sure would like to be able to raid with my friends tonight but instead they’re stuck in 4-6 hour long queues. Why are we paying 15 dollars a month for this garbage service? If you want people to play Shadowlands so badly Blizzard, maybe consider making it an expansion that can stand up on its own merits instead of gutting the project you never wanted to succeed in the first place.
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Sick move blizz. Was nice seeing all the multiboxers and seeing all the newly made mage boys being power leveled by the cHiNese.
Congrats on ruining your own game. Can’t pay your employees and regularly screw them, so why not screw your customers aswell. Classic classic.
All the threads are getting merged and I want to address a few of the more toxic posters/dismissals - I’ve also added this post to the topic header.
Why didn’t you take the free Transfers?
The free transfers were only available after many guilds and communities had already established themselves. Arugal was already locked and queued on Day 1 as it was the only PVP server for Oceania - Then another server was created, which also filled up and locked very quickly. Getting entire communities to transfer off a server is near impossible.
Why don’t you transfer off now?
We’ve opened our AQ gates and it costs money to transfer our alts. We already pay enough for this service. Asking us to pay more to move our communities into new dynamics is unreasonable.
This is your own fault - You knew what would happen!
No - we actually had no idea how they would manage this. Blizzard’s communication on this topic was Layering would be removed once the population issue had been resolved. The population issue has not been resolved. We had queues on TWO LAYERS during the 10 hour war.
Layering Ruins the game
Maybe - but being unable to play because of queues ruins it more. I think the vast majority of Arugal would prefer layering to queues. Our server does not feel dead in the slightest and while we’re in a global pandemic with a number of folks stuck at home, it will remain extremely active - I don’t expect traffic on Arugal to die down long term until late Phase 6.
But the Economy/World PVP/No Changes!!
These arguments are flawed. The economy will adjust itself based on the circumstances and Arugal’s is reasonably healthy despite the bots. There’s plenty of World PVP and with BGs and Padding, World PVP has lost all meaning anyway. No Changes is a long dead horse that can’t be beaten anymore because of changes that have been made to better replicate a better gameplay experience while achieving the Vanilla design goals - Layering doesn’t really detract from this
If you don’t like queues, you can leave - your guild doesn’t have to follow you!
I mean - in my individual circumstances, my guild helped me achieve Scarab Lord. I’m becoming a much more active part of the server’s community overall. Many of my IRL friends still play here. My guild also geared me and I’m a contributor to the raid in many ways than just DPS - if I left, it would be unfair to literally all of those people, and I’d become a huge hated meme, and vilified by probably the same people who want layering to remain off. This is not an option for me personally - now there are a lot more folks on the server who have similar ties or reasons for staying.
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